Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[The Clogger]

Sorry but this is ridiculous, he wouldn't have gotten dropped from that group from doing a pull one time. Nor would he have had a chance to get bonification seconds even if he didn't. It wouldn't have cost him anything.

He would have lost 6 seconds instead, obviously. Vingegaard is here to win the tour de france, not doing leadouts for Van Aert. Vingegaard gave him the oppurtunity to win the stage, but he wasn't able to. It's ridiculous to expect the defending tour de france champion to close gaps like that on the second stage of the tour. Vingegaard did what he is supposed to do.

 

[The Clogger]

Most boring rider in the peloton, hope Wout thinks about the WC when he needs to go deep for this guy

I think he is one of the most exciting riders in the peloton. Without him, in fact, this tour de france would already be over. Pogacar would have won the first 2 stages with ease.

 

[Berniece]

I think he is one of the most exciting riders in the peloton. Without him, in fact, this tour de france would already be over. Pogacar would have won the first 2 stages with ease.

Just because he's able to follow in Pogacar's wheel doesn't make him exciting. That makes sure that the TDF stays exciting, but Vingegaard himself stays boring

 

[frisenfruitig]

He would have lost 6 seconds instead, obviously. Vingegaard is here to win the tour de france, not doing leadouts for Van Aert. Vingegaard gave him the oppurtunity to win the stage, but he wasn't able to. It's ridiculous to expect the defending tour de france champion to close gaps like that on the second stage of the tour. Vingegaard did what he is supposed to do.

That's what they were going for right, or were they just pretending to go for the win? He was going to lose those seconds anyway.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I can understand why he didn't pull, but I would also have understood it if he had. He would probably have been criticised either way though.

 

[pvieira91]

It wouldn't cost him that much to make a pull in the last km. Van aert would probably win the stage and the team spirit would be completely different.

 

[topt]

He would have lost 6 seconds instead, obviously. Vingegaard is here to win the tour de france, not doing leadouts for Van Aert. Vingegaard gave him the oppurtunity to win the stage, but he wasn't able to. It's ridiculous to expect the defending tour de france champion to close gaps like that on the second stage of the tour. Vingegaard did what he is supposed to do.

gave him the opportunity ?

 

[frisenfruitig]

gave him the opportunity ?

Yes by not cooperating with Pogacar he gave Van Aert a chance to win, obviously!

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Yes by not cooperating with Pogacar he gave Van Aert a chance to win, obviously!

He also made it safer for himself, cause he could have ended up in trouble, had he been dropped by Pogačar or had a mechanical (although Pogačar likely would have stopped riding in such a scenario).

 

[ice&fire]

Jonas default mode is do nothing and follow Tadej unless his DS tells him otherwise. That's what his DS told after the stage at Granon.

 

[Monte Serra]

The verdict of the Chicken: Vingegaard is a chicken

Kyllingens dom: - Vingegaard er en kylling

Læs mere her

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[Lequack]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1675558209292042242

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[topt]

Yes by not cooperating with Pogacar he gave Van Aert a chance to win, obviously!

I never know if people are sarcastic here, damn

 

[The Clogger]

That's what they were going for right, or were they just pretending to go for the win? He was going to lose those seconds anyway.

Yes they were going for the stage win. Van Aert had Kelderman and Benoot to work for him. Vingegaard is there to win the tour. He is not doing anything different than every other GC contender in the history of the tour de france.

Just because he's able to follow in Pogacar's wheel doesn't make him exciting. That makes sure that the TDF stays exciting, but Vingegaard himself stays boring

So Vingegaard is actually the reason why the tour is exciting? It sounds like you do not like Vingegaard that much. I've seen far less aggressive riders throughout the years. I also remember Vingegaard giving everyone a show last year at the Galibier-Granon stage. It didn't look so boring to me.

I have the feeling you just do not like Vingegaard being able to follow Pogacar.

 

[yaco]

I can understand why he didn't pull, but I would also have understood it if he had. He would probably have been criticised either way though.

If they had waited the few seconds for S.yates to join they may have stayed away because Yates would have ridden.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Good on him for actually giving that answer. As said in the other thread, proper ridiculous to blame him when he's the one and only reason that WVA actually was in a position to go for the win. Without WVA, he can work with Pogi (or work already yesterday)and put 30s+ into other GC contenders while only losing 4 bonus seconds to Pog. This way he's behind by the same margin but doesn't have an advantage over other GC guys while being attacked by dumb press outlets for "not working".

Aside from that he's looking excellent. Followed Pog in these first two stages with ease on terrain that should actually suit him less and that sprint over the top today was actually the closest he's ever been. Right now I'd be very confident that he'll put a minute into the rest over the high mountains.

 

[Mayomaniac]

It wouldn't cost him that much to make a pull in the last km. Van aert would probably win the stage and the team spirit would be completely different.

Yeah, it wouldn't have killed him to pull a bit for Wout, even if the later could have played his cards a bit better.
That said, we're talking about Wout. If you do it once he expects you to do it everytime...

 

[Berniece]

I have the feeling you just do not like Vingegaard being able to follow Pogacar.

Lol, I'm not even a Pogacar fan. Before this season I found Pogacar overrated. I just find Vingegaard very boring the past 2 stages, and selfish, but that's a typical thing for the GC riders of Jumbo.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

That said, we're talking about Wout. If you do it once he expects you to do it everytime...

wtf lol

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

Most boring rider in the peloton, hope Wout thinks about the WC when he needs to go deep for this guy

The WC? He is there as back up to the World Champion.
Van Aert hasn't won a major race since MSR yet his fans expect the likes of the current TdF champion and the World Champion to bow to his overriding need to finish second.

 

[theyoungest]

Of course Vingegaard isn't going to pull, it makes no sense for him to waste energy and then have Pogi take the bonus seconds. Pogi even almost won the sprint today. The fact that the Belgian commentators don't understand this is just mindboggling. Or actually, not that much, because we don't really expect anything else from them anymore.

Vingo is racing negatively because if he doesn't on stages like this, he's digging his own grave. These are not the stages that suit him, and they do suit Pogi (very much).

 

[Jagartrott]

Of course Vingegaard isn't going to pull, it makes no sense for him to waste energy and then have Pogi take the bonus seconds. Pogi even almost won the sprint today. The fact that the Belgian commentators don't understand this is just mindboggling. Or actually, not that much, because we don't really expect anything else from them anymore.

Vingo is racing negatively because if he doesn't on stages like this, he's digging his own grave. These are not the stages that suit him, and they do suit Pogi (very much).

What's mind boggling is that some people think that a 30 second effort is more of a risk to a Tour de France win than messing up group dynamics. This isn't Cycling Manager.

 

[Boes]

Ofcourse Vingegaard doesn't have to pull for WVA. The greater good is the yellow.

On an interesting side note - what would Poggy have done if the roles were reversed and Wout was in Poggy's team?
I'm pretty sure I know the answer.

Having WVA in your team is usually a blessing for Vingegaard, remember Hautecam last year, but I'm not to sure about this year.

 

[Jumbot]

Lol, I'm not even a Pogacar fan. Before this season I found Pogacar overrated. I just find Vingegaard very boring the past 2 stages, and selfish, but that's a typical thing for the GC riders of Jumbo.

Hopefully Remco does a leadout for Merlier in Vuelta sprint stages, if he doesn't, I expect you to change your profile pic

 

[Tonton]

I understand some of the criticism: I'm a bit disappointed. I would have liked to see the two mano a mano yesterday and today. Make it 1-2, epic, the stage was set...