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But if it’s ventilation he won’t get that benefit during a race so why do it now? Same thing with not wearing the darker jersey they’re going to wear at the Tour de France unless he believes he’ll mostly be in yellow.Obviously showing off his gorgeous shoulders!
Or ventilation?
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He did the Dauphiné after not doing any race since March. He was recovering from a concussion.
It was a setback who will not affect him in the Tour, but didn't let him come to the Dauphiné in a condition where he sustains the condition and don't get easily tired.
The ITT is a short effort and he was good.
In the mountains he suffered a bit more due to the lack of racing, but people don't see he was the guy who improved more between the stage of Combloux and the stage of Valmonier. The gap was going to be small in a longer effort compared to Combloux, and i know the real gap wasn't 14 seconds.
The Dauphiné is what he needed before the last altitude training camp and the Tour.
Dauphiné is just preparation, and as we saw many times in history, is not that important for what will happens in the Tour.
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This has got to be the dumbest article I’ve ever read about cycling. They should have framed this as, “Who’s a random cyclist who has ridden the Tour de France that I’d like to talk about?” Vingegaard not on the list but Thomas de Gendt and Biniam Girmay on is ridiculous.
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100% on point.
For example, Pinot. Truly really loved the guy but top-15 "The best men's Tour de France rider"? Gimme a break. Same for Bardet. And naming DeGendt? Now they're just trolling.
But props to the guy in the comments asking "What about Adam Hansen"
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Spot on! I will do a list of the last 15 years (2010-2024)
GC: Contador, Froome, Vingegaard, Pogacar, Quintana, Thomas, Schleck (I had to put him even if he just impacted 2 Tours), Roglic, Bardet
Sprinters: Cavendish, Sagan, WVA (I decided to put him here because he won a green jersey), Greipel (over Kittel IMO).
Classics/TT: Cancellara, Alaphilippe
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Just think of it as a list of best loved or best to watch and it will function just fine as a list.100% on point.
For example, Pinot. Truly really loved the guy but top-15 "The best men's Tour de France rider"? Gimme a break. Same for Bardet. And naming DeGendt? Now they're just trolling.
But props to the guy in the comments asking "What about Adam Hansen"
I know were on CN forum but havent read the articles in like 10 years. Very low quality and for some years you now have to pay for said bad articles? Maybe the target group is like the average football loving fan who only watches TDF on a camping trip without knowing the tactics, teams and riders? When we are in the TDF period I get dumb questions from people all the time. They even dont know that there are other races.
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Even Jonas knows he or Pogacar would win every mountain stage with a 2 minutes gap without the other.
View: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLcM44ksfb6/?igsh=MWQ4cGQzMTRtanV6NA==
View: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLcM44ksfb6/?igsh=MWQ4cGQzMTRtanV6NA==
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Daaaamn. Ice cold! I hope Roglic and Remco prove him wrong.
(I don’t think he was being a jerk or arrogant, just telling it how it is)
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He was honest. The question is: Do you think he is wrong? I don't.
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I don’t think Vingegaard would casually put 2 minutes on every rival if Pogacar was out, but I think it’s a directionally correct assertion.
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You will see that on La Vuelta, since pogacar will not be there.
Like i said in May, Visma will win again three 3 GTs this year.
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It will happen this Tour, Pogacar will put 40-60" on Jonas and Remco/Roglic will be 2'30" behind.
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You are taking conclusions from dauphiné.
What happens in the Dauphine don't translate to the Tour, especially in this case due to circumstances who happened in the last months.
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You think I am wrong, I think you are praying to God right now to have a different battle from what we saw in the Dauphiné. But deep inside, you know Vingegaard was very close to his best shape (like he always showed in the Dauphine) but got beaten by a better rider (and by a huge margin). Facts are there, if you don't want to see them, I can't do anything.
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Yeah, but Contador was actually better than his main opponent that year, so I think that's a bad example.
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I follow cycling for too long. Contador never was close to his peak shape in the Dauphine, his case is very different from Vingegaard. He was average in 2007, 2009, 2010 (he couldn't drop Brajkovic on AdH). But you're free to believe in what you want.
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Contador didn't have as strong rival as Vingegaard has though. BTW Vingegaard would win the Tour in his Dauphine shape actually...if not for Pogacar. I don't doubt he'll improve noticeably until the Tour but the big question is if it will be enough to leapfrog Pogacar. Visma's biggest hope should be that Pogacar peaked too early and won't improve anymore. Otherwise it will be hard for them to win.
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Even Vingegaard said he hopes for Pogacar to not improve more.
"I hope he doesn’t get any better" - Jonas Vingegaard says 'time will tell' if Tadej Pogacar is peaking too soon for 2025 Tour de France
For many riders, their calendars are designed around peaking at one race in particular every season. For others, they target 2 or 3 peaks within a season. Tadej Pogacar however, has shown over recent...
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I am not worried. Vingegaard will win the Tour, 100% sure, but with a less gap than 2023, because pogacar will not fade in any stage.
PDB 2024 is the biggest reason who will explain why Vingegaard will win this year, plus the perfomance 2025 in ITTs.
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I know you are 100%. I'm just trying to change your opinion before it's too late (your place in this forum is on the line).
What do you mean by PdB being the biggest reason?
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