Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[YavorD]

I am not worried. Vingegaard will win the Tour, 100% sure, but with a less gap than 2023, because pogacar will not fade in any stage.

PDB 2024 is the biggest reason who will explain why Vingegaard will win this year, plus the perfomance 2025 in ITTs.

You were 100% sure that Vingegaard will destroy Pogacar in week 3 if he's within 2 minutes before the mountains as well, no?

 

[Berniece]

It will happen this Tour, Pogacar will put 40-60" on Jonas and Remco/Roglic will be 2'30" behind.

When? I mean on which stage(s)?

 

[Peyroteo94]

When? I mean on which stage(s)?

Stages 16 and 18

 

[Berniece]

Stages 16 and 18

I can only see it happening on stage 18 if they drop him before Col de la Loze, and I don't see it happening on stage 16. In case of 16 there are no mountains before AND a rest day the day before. I could be wrong of course, but I doubt there will be a stage where Evenepoel loses 2m30s to Pogacar.

 

[fenns]

You are taking conclusions from dauphiné.

What happens in the Dauphine don't translate to the Tour, especially in this case due to circumstances who happened in the last months.

A rider who wins the Dauphine by a minute or more nearly always wins the Tour. Some exceptions Wiggins 2011 (crash), Greg Lemond (main rivals weren't in the Dauphine)

But of course Pogi only win by 59 secs

 

[hayneplane]

Contador didn't have as strong rival as Vingegaard has though. BTW Vingegaard would win the Tour in his Dauphine shape actually...if not for Pogacar. I don't doubt he'll improve noticeably until the Tour but the big question is if it will be enough to leapfrog Pogacar. Visma's biggest hope should be that Pogacar peaked too early and won't improve anymore. Otherwise it will be hard for them to win.

They can hope for that but if they believe that then they need to fire the entire team management because it was blatantly clear that Pogacar won the Dauphine without ever needing to show his full mid June form.

He could lose the race but I reckon there is less than one percent chance that he peaked too early.

 

[hayneplane]

I can only see it happening on stage 18 if they drop him before Col de la Loze, and I don't see it happening on stage 16. In case of 16 there are no mountains before AND a rest day the day before. I could be wrong of course, but I doubt there will be a stage where Evenepoel loses 2m30s to Pogacar.

I would not put money on it but if he was to have a jour sans on Stage 18 he could even be dropped from the Maillot Jaune group on the penultimate climb and drop 5+ minutes given how little mountain support he has from his team.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Even Jonas knows he or Pogacar would win every mountain stage with a 2 minutes gap without the other.

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If Pogi is feeling a bit cocky lately, Jonas is out right smug, Tour will humble them.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I can only see it happening on stage 18 if they drop him before Col de la Loze, and I don't see it happening on stage 16. In case of 16 there are no mountains before AND a rest day the day before. I could be wrong of course, but I doubt there will be a stage where Evenepoel loses 2m30s to Pogacar.

A rest day is very tough for riders. So Mont Ventoux will be a total carnage. Almost a Pierre Saint Martin type of stage.