Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Mountain Sprinter

[Miss Violet Smith]

The Vingegaards looking fantastic ! Gala dinner at Christiansborgs castle with Queen Margrethe and the Spanish Royals.

ETA: They seem so excited and proud to be there. Very endearing.

https://imgix.billedbladet.dk/2023-11-06/_hjp9627_0.jpg?auto=format,compress&fit=min&crop=faces,entropy&w=900

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717473386287243470

View: https://twitter.com/LeTour/status/1717473386287243470?t=HpX8Ioyh9WycykvovhWJaA&s=19

Ah, ok, thank you very much

Looks like the kind of gravel: can be ridden by everyone. Only problem: if you get a flat tyre, you have to wait for the team car, and you can lose minutes in this stage.

So the teams of the GC favourites in the next months will have to think about how to avoid flat tyres, here. I think these smooth, slim, super fast tyres for the best kinds of tarmac (UAE, Romandie, Norway have best tarmacs) probably aren’t built for gravel, at all. I think teams will look for broader tyres, which proved to be safe in Roubaix, Tro Bro Leon, Strade Bianche, already.

But that can be handled. SQS, UAE, Jumbo and Bora all will have tyres available which suit this parcours.

And since it‘s Vingegaard‘s thread: I expect the man to show up in next Strade Bianche. Would be a pleasure for us spectators. Jonas is extremely fast all year long, and unbeatably fast in July. So go for SB victory, friendly young man!

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

The Vingegaards looking fantastic ! Gala dinner at Christiansborgs castle with Queen Margrethe and the Spanish Royals.

ETA: They seem so excited and proud to be there. Very endearing.

https://imgix.billedbladet.dk/2023-11-06/_hjp9627_0.jpg?auto=format,compress&fit=min&crop=faces,entropy&w=900

Always nice to see cyclists enjoying themselves in the offseason considering the rigors the season brings. A gala dinner is certainly a high honor though.

 

[proffate]

Ah, ok, thank you very much

Looks like the kind of gravel: can be ridden by everyone. Only problem: if you get a flat tyre, you have to wait for the team car, and you can lose minutes in this stage.

So the teams of the GC favourites in the next months will have to think about how to avoid flat tyres, here. I think these smooth, slim, super fast tyres for the best kinds of tarmac (UAE, Romandie, Norway have best tarmacs) probably aren’t built for gravel, at all. I think teams will look for broader tyres, which proved to be safe in Roubaix, Tro Bro Leon, Strade Bianche, already.

But that can be handled. SQS, UAE, Jumbo and Bora all will have tyres available which suit this parcours.

And since it‘s Vingegaard‘s thread: I expect the man to show up in next Strade Bianche. Would be a pleasure for us spectators. Jonas is extremely fast all year long, and unbeatably fast in July. So go for SB victory, friendly young man!

Just throw on 32mm tubeless tires with inserts for one stage. How much can it possibly cost you on tarmac, 10w? Should be fine for vingegaard and co, I think they can spare 10w.

 

[scribers]

Vingo should have one or two riders close to him who will give him a bike if he goes flat.

 

[RedheadDane]

Vingo should have one or two riders, who are about the same size as he is, close to him who will give him a bike if he goes flat.

FIFY.

 

[Boehmand]

Well, he did complain about the stage

Sure, but that probably has more to do with the chances of random outcomes on such a stage, rather than any legitime fear in terms of his own abilities.

The problem with both cobbles and gravel in stage races is, that those sections are notoriously hard to service because they are always small roads, so there is a great risk a GC Captain can be left stranded at the side of the road for minutes, if they have a technical at the wrong spot.

 

[AmRacer]

Sure, but that probably has more to do with the chances of random outcomes on such a state, rather than any legitime fear in terms of his own abilities.

The problem with both cobbles and gravel in stage races is, that those sections are notoriously hard to service because they are always small roads, so there is a great risk a GC Captain can be left stranded at the side of the road for minutes, if they have a technical at the wrong spot.

Or crash into a hay bale

 

[Rob5091]

If Vingegaard is behind a GT favorite after the ITT on stage 7, then I would not be surprised if Visma get the classics guys to push it on the gravel for Vingegaard. It'll be better to have a mechanical at the front of the race and swap bikes, then sit in the peloton and try and follow.

 

[scribers]

I expect Vingo to ride the tour/vuelta double from now until forever. He should be able to find great success nearly regardless of who races.

Assuming pog does the giro and wins it this spring, he’ll keep riding the vuelta until he wins it himself

 

[wheresmybrakes]

Sure, but that probably has more to do with the chances of random outcomes on such a state, rather than any legitime fear in terms of his own abilities.

The problem with both cobbles and gravel in stage races is, that those sections are notoriously hard to service because they are always small roads, so there is a great risk a GC Captain can be left stranded at the side of the road for minutes, if they have a technical at the wrong spot.

Notoriously hard, unless you have a system in place like the Dawgs fuelling strategy in the Giro, but with wheels. He could have about 700 sets of wheels on standby, through out the gravel sections just in case. I'm sure some of the locals will help out, for a beer or two.

 

[Peter von]

I expect Vingo to ride the tour/vuelta double from now until forever. He should be able to find great success nearly regardless of who races.

Assuming pog does the giro and wins it this spring, he’ll keep riding the vuelta until he wins it himself

Seems reasonable. Stage racing is what he is good at.

 

[The Clogger]

Vingegaard has never hidden the fact that sooner or later he wants to try one-day races again. It could easily be next year. He has already made himself available for the WC and Olympics to the national coach.

I think he will race the Ardennes classics next season as well as the Olympics (if he is selected) and the WC.

No Vuelta for next year, but perhaps all GTs in 2025. It's guesswork on my part, me trying to read between the lines.

 

[scribers]

Has Vingo ever rode people off his wheel outside of a long mountain finish? To win a one day race you have to create a gap and stay away. Or beat them in a sprint, which he also isn’t doing.

What are his options? ITT at Olympics/Worlds?

 

[kn0s]

Has Vingo ever rode people off his wheel outside of a long mountain finish? To win a one day race you have to create a gap and stay away. Or beat them in a sprint, which he also isn’t doing.

What are his options? ITT at Olympics/Worlds?

Well what is long... He did win alot in the early season on what I would call shot to medium mountains and ending downhill as well.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Well what is long... He did win alot in the early season on what I would call shot to medium mountains and ending downhill as well.

Vingo is great on 10 minute climbs but it's not really that surprising given his engine - this duration means the effort is already mostly in the aerobic zone. He's yet to show exceptional level on repeating 1-3 minute climbs.

 

[scribers]

Can he stay away the down hill and away finish at Lombardia, worlds, amstel, MSR, LBL, San sebastian, etc, et al.

Fleche Wallonne might be suitable for him, but is the climb long enough to get away from other punchier riders?

 

[Netserk]

If he is strong enough to distance the rest uphill in Lombardia, he is strong enough to stay away.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Can he stay away the down hill and away finish at Lombardia, worlds, amstel, MSR, LBL, San sebastian, etc, et al.

Fleche Wallonne might be suitable for him, but is the climb long enough to get away from other punchier riders?

He can win Lombardy when in TdF megawatt form (otherwise he's neither dropping nor outsprinting Teddy & co). San Sebastian is also possible. I don't think the rest is possible to win for him.

 

[kn0s]

Can he stay away the down hill and away finish at Lombardia, worlds, amstel, MSR, LBL, San sebastian, etc, et al.

Fleche Wallonne might be suitable for him, but is the climb long enough to get away from other punchier riders?

This year on the mount Blanc stage he kept the chasers away and as far as I remember, there was minimal, to no group two syndrome going, as there was no winning the stage. In general the performance was absolutely bananas and much more impressive than holding a group behind at MSR or Lombardia as there will almost always be very heavy group two shenanigans going on there.

 

[Boehmand]

I expect Vingo to ride the tour/vuelta double from now until forever. He should be able to find great success nearly regardless of who races.

Assuming pog does the giro and wins it this spring, he’ll keep riding the vuelta until he wins it himself

I think he only does the Tour next year, to attempt the triple in 2025.

 

[scribers]

Interesting. I would like to see that!

 

[Rob5091]

I don't know what people are smoking who think Vingegaard can win a one day classic race. The only one, where he has a chance, I can think of is The Ventoux Challenge.

 

[Froome]

I don't know what people are smoking who think Vingegaard can win a one day classic race. The only one, where he has a chance, I can think of is The Ventoux Challenge.

He can win san sebastian, it's similar to some stages of pays basque that he won this year.

 

[iBanesto]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717811908517171439

View: https://twitter.com/EscapeCycling/status/1717811908517171439


It continues. This topped my twitter feed just now. And I think this won't be offensive to either so I'll post it here

Vingegaard looks like a start up company CEO seeking investors.