Every time you break a collarbone, it heals 5mm shorter. The more breaks, the narrower your shoulders. Narrow is aero. Are you sure it's a problem?
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Is Benoot loopsided?
As for Vingegaard's parents apparently not getting any info; I'm starting to think it might be the other way around, that EB got the story from that other guy. Again; can't actually check: paywall!
That Exstra Bladet interview with Pa and Ma Vingegaard .... no word from Jonas, Mrs Jonas or Visma -
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...s-from-family-and-team-its-really-hell-for-us
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...s-from-family-and-team-its-really-hell-for-us
I mean unless Vingegaard is comatose thats really just family drama, and if he was in a coma its still family drama
It’s completely unacceptable noone has contacted them with any updates unless they have no relationship and everyone knows about it. The team should be in contact with them (even if was is comatose).
On the other hand, I’ll never understand why anyone would go to the media with a story like that…
On the other hand, I’ll never understand why anyone would go to the media with a story like that…
The second line justifies the first. I don't think it's unacceptable to withhold medical information from the extended family. I think (extended) family relations is one of the dimensions in which Scandinavians differ most from the rest of Europe.
Indeed. They have a "unhealty" relation. It has been known for a long time Trine wants and has the complete control over her husband. Even excluding Vingegaard more and more of his family. But the fact that his team is not communicating clear and open and doesn't allow (?) or facilitate that Vingegaard communicate with his family, is strange and disturbing. I think Vingegaard is way more hurt and affected than initially communicated. But that should be one more reason to put his real family (parents, etc.) in touch with him.
My conclusion. No Tour this year for Vingegaard.
Don't get this s###! His medical condition is the only one we don't know anything, seriously hate this secret environment around Vingegaard. The only reason for all this nonsense is Vingegaard being in critical condition and I think he isn't.
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Kruijswijk seems to have suffered the opposite of a fractured collar-bone on numerous occasions.
What is known is that Trine was in fact rather hesistant about the whole thing in the beginning.
As for the EB story; feels like their usual sensationalist selves. Making a headline like that, then putting the article behind a pay-wall in order to trick people into signing up.
Unless he is really in coma, Jonas could just pick up the phone and write a text. So it seems the connection is not the best and then it really is family drama and something they have to figure out, not public.
Looks like his family is upset and is taking it public. Otherwise we wouldn’t know about it
Exactly. We don't have to receive details. But both his wife and the team could communicate (better). I'm still waiting at a reaction of the father that he did not declare that he and the family didn't have contact with Vingegaard (not being in coma). Until I see that response, I believe it is the truth that there is no contact after even a week
I just went and looked her up. She’s a lot older than he is that dirty devil. We call her a cougar in our part of the world
The thing is, we don't know anything. All we got is the headline of an EB article...
Isn't that term usually referring to women who go after much younger guys?
Lots of guesswork here, probably delicious gossip material while we're waiting for Godot.
However, I'm not surprised.
On beforehand we already knew Jonas' being as a person and, hence, his need for privacy in order for him to function optimally mentally and physically (supported by his wife or not)
If anybody left in doubt, his situation right now requires even more peace and foreclosure.
Could also include parts of family, but I don't want to join the guessing game here.
Just simply deal with the facts - which may come at a pace that suits Jonas.
No one else is entitled to that.
Period.
However, I'm not surprised.
On beforehand we already knew Jonas' being as a person and, hence, his need for privacy in order for him to function optimally mentally and physically (supported by his wife or not)
If anybody left in doubt, his situation right now requires even more peace and foreclosure.
Could also include parts of family, but I don't want to join the guessing game here.
Just simply deal with the facts - which may come at a pace that suits Jonas.
No one else is entitled to that.
Period.
I did forget about this Scandinavian specific I admit, but still - it appears that at least Claus also finds it is unacceptable...
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