Julian Alaphilippe

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How Alien is Julian Alaphilippe?

  • Contador/Nibali (almost plausible)

    Votes: 32 32.3%
  • Geraint Thomas (pushing it)

    Votes: 24 24.2%
  • Armstrong/Froome (over the top)

    Votes: 15 15.2%
  • Chris Horner (glows in the dark)

    Votes: 24 24.2%
  • Vino

    Votes: 4 4.0%

  • Total voters
    99
I can't imagine fans having a better understanding of the testing than an athlete, especially in 2019 when we've had the Dr Ferrari case, Operation Puerto, Lance's case, and other cases.
Marion is a smooth operator, because the day of that above video interview (June 27), where she is talking about being satisfied with 10th place in the time-trial... was the very same day of the control sample which later tested positive. So on that day, Marion was totally chill in attitude, on camera, yet apparently 'glowing' on EPO. The results of her 'B' Sample haven't been announced yet tho
 
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Marion is a smooth operator, because the day of that above video interview (June 27), where she is talking about being satisfied with 10th place in the time-trial... was the very same day of the control sample which later tested positive. So on that day, Marion was totally chill in attitude, on camera, yet apparently 'glowing' on EPO. The results of her 'B' Sample haven't been announced yet tho
Now that she has she'll have to find a chimera twin that is guilty of the EPO use....chemically discernable from natural production.

On a positively painful note: Alaphillipe looked like most anyone would after the World's punishment. Cold enough to cry but too f*cking tired. That looked like a good reason to stay amateur and avoid those events.
 
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Good question...regardless of what happened today we’ve still seen him morph from a guy who consistently struggled on any climbs of significant length, to one able to hang with the very best climbers in the race, when lots of established climbers and super domestiques were getting shelled out of the back much earlier in proceedings.

That he cracked eventually just shows that even the best doping programs have their limitations on just how far above any individuals baseline they can continue to sustain improvement
He's been a good climber below super-high altitude for awhile. He put on a clinic in his first Tour of California in terms of sustained effort. He could improve from that performance years ago whether clean or not.
The real tell-tale is when the riders get uber-skinny, can climb and suddenly can time trial. You can't get power and climbing ability suddenly. No way.
 
Didn't realise there was a poll: I went for the Contador/Nibali option. Which basically means - "already has serious talent, rides with serious panache, so, a bit of a free pass is warranted."

Aesthetics trump reason for many clinic issues.
 
He's been a good climber below super-high altitude for awhile. He put on a clinic in his first Tour of California in terms of sustained effort. He could improve from that performance years ago whether clean or not.
The real tell-tale is when the riders get uber-skinny, can climb and suddenly can time trial. You can't get power and climbing ability suddenly. No way.
Well Alaphilippe suddenly can climb with the best in high mountains, and can suddenly beat the whole field in a time trial. So you go figure.
 
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Marion Sicot B-sample did come back positive, this caused 'a media whirlwind'
https://www.cyclismactu.net/news-route-marion-sicot-l-echantillon-b-confirme-la-presence-d-epo-86938.html
... and she already has two lawyers, and she did an extensive interview video which can be seen at that link on Cyclism'actu...

And the reporters are not exaggerating about the 'whirlwind', this story became something more
https://www.inbici.net/gn/sicot-positiva-alaphilippe-vuole-rompere-con-il-preparatore-cugino/
Because this Italian reporting is saying Julian Alaphillipe wants to split with his coach (his own cousin Franck Alaphillipe). If true, that cuts really deep. Before, Julian said the case of Marion was "irritating" or "gets on his nerves", now it sounds serious. Could be the media is just fanning the flames of their own creation, or could be true... like he has to ditch Franck, just to distance himself from the Marion debacle
Now that she has she'll have to find a chimera twin that is guilty of the EPO use....chemically discernable from natural production.
Yeah, you're right that she is almost in Tyler Hamilton territory in terms of implausible claims needed for a defense. I tried to think up something myself when the story appeared... the best I could think of at that moment was something like: a previously unknown microorganism infects the urinary tract, and, only during menstruation, converts endogenous EPO to a form which gives a false positive. Anyway she intends to battle it out to the end. And she even quoted Rousseau in her statement:

"Je vis dans l’attente de raccrocher un dossard et de revenir, plus forte. Je terminerai juste par une citation : 'La critique est une chose bien commode, on attaque avec un mot, il faut des pages pour se defendre', - Jean jacques Rousseau"

That, to me, is unique, can't recall any other cyclist objecting to their results philosophically
 

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