Mr.38% said:
This puzzled me as well. It appears to me that JV does not consider anything else than blood doping when referring to a cleaner peloton. T suspension? NPP if you are training in Mexico or on some island? So Wiggo lost a big chunk of muscles as well? Did he do it like the chicken, who is a cortison-addict for sure?
JV, is doing recreation métier-style all right with you?
I'd already considered that was his modus operandi. His mission in turning up here. It's why when he started reposting he was congratulated firstly, then after 10-15 pages the tone changed. Then the doubt arose and took centre stage in the comments. JV's stand point has to be fine by me. I cannot change anything he says or thinks let alone how he is perceived by a larger portion of any circle he enters.
I stated things like the part you quoted because he is blatantly wrong on that. Could be he doesn't care, or maybe he does. My point was he is frankly not specific enough with the real nitty gritty stuff. I gave reasons why...IMO he is compromised. He can't go messing up people's posteriors and mood within cyclings power circle. Kick dirt up on them, even on a forum, they'll hound you. Even with dark clouds circling around the UCI and LA. I do not think JV's position allows him to state outright another rider is doping.
So he says what he did about Wiggins. I wouldn't do that, but I understand his position pretty much left him that one option. Only someone in Landis shoes, or Jaksche, Kohl...an outsider not connected who did dope can take a punt. Someone like Kimmage, or Vayer can join the dots. JV? Nope. Not right now, not with what is coming up. No I don't like that, but I accept there are limits on what he can say. Garmin DS says Wiggins dopes where does that leave his team? Ryder Hesjedal is then fair game. Lets not kid ourselves here. Sky will have one of their lackeys reading these forums. They are paranoid and predictable like that. The whole 'marginal gains' mentality at work.
Basically, when JV says something that is risable, take it with a barrel of salt and consider his position. It's between a rock and very, very, very hard place ATM. Also remember, he's not slinging current riders names around. It's just Lance and Postal and the older days, pre 2006 that has been touched. Nothing new and relevant, because it opens Garmin to criticism and some questioning is warranted and he knows that. He knows Lance and what he'd do to attain victory. He knows Armstrong finished a single place ahead of Wiggins in the 2009 TdF. That in itself says more than enough. So was JV being serious on that one about Wiggins being clean? I know where I stand on that issue. I really do hope for his sake he wasn't being serious...that would confirm all the worst stuff mentioned on this thread. ChrisE answered that quite well to my dismay and shock. Hrotha's approach is right...ask what you can and hope you get an answer, if not move to another question. But don't forget the basics of the Clinic and doping.