Katusha thread

[roundabout]

Ah ok, while I didn't really expect him to climb with the very best today, he was a bit below my expectations.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

So, doing a Portey today. Yesterday was just a little bit too ridiculous.

 

[roundabout]

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...-of-food-may-have-cost-them-on-stage-ten.aspx

Not enough tobacco...

 

[The Hitch]

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...-of-food-may-have-cost-them-on-stage-ten.aspx

Not enough tobacco...

hmm, whats murito going to be like with food.

As for Moreno, where are all the posts from smug Katusha fanboys telling us if we count the wins as suspicious, then any lapse in performance has to be taken as proof of cleanliness.

 

[djerkson]

Moreno and Horner both were with Lotto a few years back. Neither of them showed anything like they did this year, not even by far. Both riders are just ridiculous and hey,, it's the vuelta, thé dope race of the year.

 

[Samson777]

Moreno and Horner both were with Lotto a few years back. Neither of them showed anything like they did this year, not even by far. Both riders are just ridiculous and hey,, it's the vuelta, thé dope race of the year.

Is there only one

 

[djerkson]

Is there only one

At this moment, yes . Seriously, Spanish races (Tour of the Pays Basque, Vuelta etc)...will they ever be clean (or at least as clean as the rest)?

 

[Ferminal]

Why is there any difference?

It may be that as the home of many riders they find it a good country to use as a bank and there is a small advantage logistically, but aside from that...

For heavy dopers Basso/Nibali/Rodriguez/Valverde the performances are pretty poor.

 

[del1962]

The secret pro reminds of of Katusha employing a dodgy doctor Andrei Mikhailov, and they sacked Zabek.

 

[Ferminal]

So, if Purito can pump Valverde today he will have achieved an incredible consecutive podium. Even if he stays where he is in fourth the same applies, and then there's Valverde who would have been ~4th in the Tour sans puncture. I mean Froome fell into a hole after two weeks, his fourth was achieved by retaining good legs from the Tour then as expected running out of steam in the second half of the race. Here Valverde and Purito have been fairly consistent (although not at their absolute best) across the entire three weeks and the day we've all been waiting for where one of them blows hard is yet to come, I mean Nibali is fading more than they are.

Is there something going on we don't understand?

 

[Cycle Chic]

So, if Purito can pump Valverde today he will have achieved an incredible consecutive podium.... Here Valverde and Purito have been fairly consistent ...

Is there something going on we don't understand?

no-one bothers with the dopers of old...its the new ones who are interesting. The usual dopers ride with some intelligence and don't blow themselves off the radar but the new ones aren't too sharp and provide entertainment.

*** Riding would be a good term.

 

[sniper]

So, if Purito can pump Valverde today he will have achieved an incredible consecutive podium. Even if he stays where he is in fourth the same applies, and then there's Valverde who would have been ~4th in the Tour sans puncture. I mean Froome fell into a hole after two weeks, his fourth was achieved by retaining good legs from the Tour then as expected running out of steam in the second half of the race. Here Valverde and Purito have been fairly consistent (although not at their absolute best) across the entire three weeks and the day we've all been waiting for where one of them blows hard is yet to come, I mean Nibali is fading more than they are.

Is there something going on we don't understand?

as for froome, perhaps he and brailsford are doing their very best to keep it credible and don't raise too many eyebrows, perhaps even more so now with the insecurity surrounding the uci presidency and who gets to control anti-doping, etc.
i think sky are greedy, but may also realize that enough is enough, for this season at least.

 

[JimmyFingers]

no-one bothers with the dopers of old...its the new ones who are interesting. The usual dopers ride with some intelligence and don't blow themselves off the radar but the new ones aren't too sharp and provide entertainment.

*** Riding would be a good term.

sorry but this is idiotic

 

[Ferminal]

Ok that slide maybe gets a pass, and Valverde still didn't have a "normal" Tour so may have refocused on the Vuelta.

Firenze should give a definitive answer.

 

[roundabout]

Valverde underperformed a bit on the Ventoux, but apart from that he seemed to ride pretty hard

 

[Netserk]

Ok that slide maybe gets a pass, and Valverde still didn't have a "normal" Tour so may have refocused on the Vuelta.

Firenze should give a definitive answer.

I expect Purito to win Lombardia or at least top-3

 

[del1962]

Valverde underperformed a bit on the Ventoux, but apart from that he seemed to ride pretty hard

If you take off the time lost in the crosswinds (nearly 10 to AC and 9 to Froome and Purito, he would come in a comfotable 4th in the tour)

 

[Ferminal]

Ok that slide maybe gets a pass, and Valverde still didn't have a "normal" Tour so may have refocused on the Vuelta.

Firenze should give a definitive answer.

So.......... anyone want to have a go?

 

[del1962]

Pat McQuack was at the Katusha presentation to present an award to one of their riders. whats the bet he was always there receiving his own little reward for the year ahead

As this thread was on the first page I was reading it and this post seems somewhat funny now

 

[Ferminal]

And it lasted another week! Clearly the only conclusion is that they are clean, no game changer here.

Valverde even going well in Italy

 

[Benotti69]

As this thread was on the first page I was reading it and this post seems somewhat funny now

What is funny?

 

[del1962]

What is funny?

The fact that you said Pat would reward Katusha for inviting him, and the reward was the licence denial.

 

[Benotti69]

The fact that you said Pat would reward Katusha for inviting him, and the reward was the licence denial.

I said he was there collecting something not giving anything.

Katusha lost their WT place probably because they would not cave in to the size of brown envelope he wanted.

Dont forget that UCI wanted 7million for licence to call a race in Russia the Tour of Russia.

 

[JimmyFingers]

as for froome, perhaps he and brailsford are doing their very best to keep it credible and don't raise too many eyebrows, perhaps even more so now with the insecurity surrounding the uci presidency and who gets to control anti-doping, etc.
i think sky are greedy, but may also realize that enough is enough, for this season at least.

You realise Ferminal is talking about Froome in the Vuelta last year, when he faded badly (and raced appallingly) and comparing that to Purito and Valverde this year, right?

 

[sniper]

You realise Ferminal is talking about Froome in the Vuelta last year, when he faded badly (and raced appallingly) and comparing that to Purito and Valverde this year, right?

indeed hadn't realized. thanks jimmy.