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he should throw in a bag-o-blood too

But wait there's more:

Win the auction and pay within the first 30 minutes and you will receive a free book 'DIY blood transfusions and how not to get caught*'.

* If you don't take CERA.
 

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Thomas Dekker (pictured) gets between now and one day to hear what punishment he can look forward to using the illegal substance Dynepo, which reports the Noordhollands Dagblad. Monegasque Cycling Federation will inform the Dutch rider and the UCI on Tuesday or Wednesday over the length of Dekker his suspension, says Daniel Bottero in charge of dopingcases of the Cycling Federation Monégasque.

Dekker was heard over four months ago in Monaco, but has as yet not heard of CFM. Just before the start of the Tour de France in 2009 was published in Dekker old urine were traces found of Dynepo, a generation form of EPO. The young Dutch rider was directly prov. suspended and later fired by his team Silence-Lotto. His urine was also after the contra-expertise in September tested positive, then Dekker confessed having used the doping only once.

It is the first time a rider is penalized as a result of old urine tested positive, because one years earlier the same urine tested negative for Dekker. Dekkers possible sentence of two years might be less. (FVDV)
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Human Plasma mentions names doping sinners

VIENNA (Reuters) - The Vienna Human Plasma Laboratory, which is seen as the center of a major doping network, has hit back by Tuesday for the first time and published the first names of the responsible parties. It is according to the company only three men: Walter Mayer (biathlon). Stefan Matschiner (cycling) and Martin Kessler (rowing).
,, Between late 2003 and early 2006, these three people - and they alone - provided that over thirty athletes could donate their blood'', stood in the statement. The blood was stored and later returned with an infusion, to improve sport performance by a greater stamina.
 

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CyclinNews picked up the story: Dekker gets two-year suspension for EPO use

Dutch rider caught by re-examined control under biological passport programme. Think that is not true ? ... he was caught (if?)by a new test for Dyna...

The Dutch riders ban ends June 01, 2010 - Dekker who lives in Monaco and rode under a Monegasque licence, has said that he used EPO only the one time, acknowledged his “mistake” and accepted full responsibility. Dekker has indicated he plans to return to riding after this suspension.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/dekker-gets-two-year-suspension-for-epo-use

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CyclinNews picked up the story: Dekker gets two-year suspension for EPO use

Dutch rider caught by re-examined control under biological passport programme. Think that is not true ? ... he was caught (if?)by a new test for Dyna...

Yes, it is correct. When the positive was announced last summer, the UCI said that it had the 2007 sample re-tested because of problems indicated under the bio-passport programme.

Susan

Edit: See, for example, the UCI press release: Biological passport: the UCI requests the opening of disciplinary proceedings against Thomas Dekker
http://www.uci.ch/Modules/ENews/ENe...st=&CharToList=&txtSiteSearch=dekker&LangId=1
 
So the way forward in the fight against doping is to go backwards, harassing people like Michael Boogerd, who's been retired for a number of years now. And let's not forget that big fish Pietro Caucchioli-now that's a big haul.

This is just posthumous posturing by the authorities.

What is the point exhuming these cadavers? What purpose does it serve?
 
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So the way forward in the fight against doping is to go backwards, harassing people like Michael Boogerd, who's been retired for a number of years now. And let's not forget that big fish Pietro Caucchioli-now that's a big haul.

This is just posthumous posturing by the authorities.

What is the point exhuming these cadavers? What purpose does it serve?
Menchov is still here. But like the Operation Puerto guys, dont know why only one or two should be scapegoated.

Probably why Menchov does not with to move to Katusha. He knows he can get some protection at Rabo. Move, and you are like Dekker jnr.

Whay about the price Landis pays tho. Seems quite disparate.
 
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could he come back for Vacansoleil like Millar did, just in time for the Tour?

If it was good for Millar?

Does TD have Verbruggen in his corner? Or was this the problem? He had ****ed off guys at Rabo and UCI so he was expendable?

Wonder if he will come back with Ceccho. I have a suspicion that one Dave Millar via Max Sciandri went down that route too.

Will TD go to Footon, or Vacansoleil?

Bets?
 

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This T. Dekker character, my intuition tells me he could be another Riccardo Ricco. Amazing results at a tender age. Is he a quality rider or a quality receptor? The rest who cares, old hat,nothing new, ready for the bone yard cept for Menchov and he is OK in my book.
 
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According to the International Cycling Union (UCI), data gathered under the biological passport programme in 2008 and 2009 “demonstrates convincing evidence of the use of the prohibited method of oxygen transfer.”

It'd be interesting to see his numbers and how out they have to be for the UCI to come to that conclusion.
 
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I am giving Menchov the benefit of the doubt at this stage. There is nothing concrete to state that he was in Vienna, except hearsay.
 
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I am giving Menchov the benefit of the doubt at this stage. There is nothing concrete to state that he was in Vienna, except hearsay.

If i am out somewhere and i ask people, anyone seen mike and a bunch of different people reply "hes in the red lion".. there is a very high likelehood, that hes in the red lion.
 
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If i am out somewhere and i ask people, anyone seen mike and a bunch of different people reply "hes in the red lion".. there is a very high likelehood, that hes in the red lion.

That's too simple for cycling.
You've asked 20 people about Mike. 3 of them say he must be in the red lion, but they didn't see him go there themselves. 1 says he just came from the red lion and saw Mike there. 6 of them say he would not ever go to the red lion. 4 say they just saw him at the blue goat. 5 of them deny the existence of Mike. 1 of them denies the existence of the red lion.
 

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That's too simple for cycling.
You've asked 20 people about Mike. 3 of them say he must be in the red lion, but they didn't see him go there themselves. 1 says he just came from the red lion and saw Mike there. 6 of them say he would not ever go to the red lion. 4 say they just saw him at the blue goat. 5 of them deny the existence of Mike. 1 of them denies the existence of the red lion.

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What if Mike doesnt drink? Hes still allowed to go to the Red Lion to see the guys.
However if he cant function without drink...........................
 

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Mike was only in the Red Lion as he was considering having a drink there, just in case, in the future he needed to.

At that time he had not actually drunk in the Red Lion.

Normally goes to the Pig & Whistle

If Menchov just admitted that he frequents the Red Lion then at least we would understand why he keeps falling down.

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Vienna laboratory Humanplasma hit back

The organisation "set and coordinated appointments, escorted athletes to blood transfusions and picked up the concentrates which were later re-injected before races," according to Humanplasma.

A spokeswoman, Michaela Eisler, also refused to comment on the nationality of other athletes involved. The laboratory only said that the blood doping did not only concern winter sports athletes.

Prosecutors who are investigating Humanplasma over tax evasion say 150 blood samples were taken at the laboratory.

Humanplasma insists it ended its involvement in blood doping after the 2006 Turin Olympics, which ended in scandal and life bans for several Austrian biathlon and cross-country athletes.

But the practices "continued long after 2006," it noted, adding that it was now trying to clear its name. More ...http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/vienna-lab-names-brains-behind-austrian-doping-network-25230

'Can Rabo keep this one covered up'

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