La Primavera

[Michielveedeebee]

Please let Boonen win this, it's the big gap in his Palmares imo...

Or else Cavendish would be awesome to see the world champ win a Monument by doing what he does best. Although that might make for a boring Primavera :/

 

[Cobblestoned]

When I hear Primavera, this comes to my mind first.

 

[Richeypen]

Please let Boonen win this, it's the big gap in his Palmares imo...

Or else Cavendish would be awesome to see the world champ win a Monument by doing what he does best. Although that might make for a boring Primavera :/

Dont see Cav wining it again. no one would be stupid enough to let him get to the finish in the leading group again.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Or else Cavendish would be awesome to see the world champ win a Monument by doing what he does best. Although that might make for a boring Primavera :/

Not necessarily. I want the MSR parcours to provide a balance of opportunities for punchers and sprinters. I think it's fine as it is. The sprinters have won a few and the punchers have won a few over the last decade or so. A perfect scenario would be for a few to get away on the Poggio and us not know whether they bunch will catch them or not, right up until the last few seconds of the race. That could well end up with a Cav win, but be a thrilling finish.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Dont see Cav wining it again. no one would be stupid enough to let him get to the finish in the leading group again.

Fact is, if you don't have anybody in the break and you have a sprinter in the race, you're going to work to bring it back together, regardless of Cav's presence. And Sky have the firepower to maintain a good degree of control.

 

[Richeypen]

Fact is, if you don't have anybody in the break and you have a sprinter in the race, you're going to work to bring it back together, regardless of Cav's presence. And Sky have the firepower to maintain a good degree of control.

If Cav is in the front it will blow apart on the Poggio. There wont be enough time for Sky to pull it back given the amount of time he will lose there. EBH on the other hand can get away without having to work in any group due to Cav's presence behind. Hopefully work out very nicely for him.

 

[profff]

Not necessarily. I want the MSR parcours to provide a balance of opportunities for punchers and sprinters. I think it's fine as it is. The sprinters have won a few and the punchers have won a few over the last decade or so. A perfect scenario would be for a few to get away on the Poggio and us not know whether they bunch will catch them or not, right up until the last few seconds of the race. That could well end up with a Cav win, but be a thrilling finish.

There is no balance of opportunities. look at the last 15 years and you will find 11 win by a sprinter after a mass sprint. only bettini and pozzato won after an attack on the poggio, cancellara, tchmil after an attack in the last 2 km, goss after a group sprint.
last year was an exception , because the peloton split in the manie downhill because of a fall and it was also raining.
the rule from 1997 is win by a pure sprinter after a mass sprint ( zabel 4, freire, cipo, peta and cav ) . only 1 win by somebody who went away uphill ( bettini) 3 win by finisseurs ( fabian, tchmil, pozzato) and last year, goss, a sprinter which was able to stay with the best.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

That could well end up with a Cav win, but be a thrilling finish.

Hence the 'might' but that indeed sounds like a good scenario

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Me too! I can't wait that long!



ME!

Except I'm not a Pro-Rider

and I'm not a guy...



As if 72 days wasn't bad enough you just had to add 11 more days!

because the Primavera is 92 days away.

La Primavera is 71 days away.

 

[Peccio89]

There is no balance of opportunities. look at the last 15 years and you will find 11 win by a sprinter after a mass sprint. only bettini and pozzato won after an attack on the poggio, cancellara, tchmil after an attack in the last 2 km, goss after a group sprint.
last year was an exception , because the peloton split in the manie downhill because of a fall and it was also raining.
the rule from 1997 is win by a pure sprinter after a mass sprint ( zabel 4, freire, cipo, peta and cav ) . only 1 win by somebody who went away uphill ( bettini) 3 win by finisseurs ( fabian, tchmil, pozzato) and last year, goss, a sprinter which was able to stay with the best.

However since the introduction of the Manie we are balanced with two bunch sprint out of four editions. In my opinion they should just put back the finish line in corso Cavalotti with no need of another climb. I'm afraid that a new though climb would change the nature of this classic.

 

[El Pistolero]

However since the introduction of the Manie we are balanced with two bunch sprint out of four editions. In my opinion they should just put back the finish line in corso Cavalotti with no need of another climb. I'm afraid that a new though climb would change the nature of this classic.

A sprinter still won this year despite a crash taking down more than half of the peloton.

How is one edition out of four won by non-sprinters balanced what so ever?

 

[greenedge]

Not necessarily. I want the MSR parcours to provide a balance of opportunities for punchers and sprinters. I think it's fine as it is. The sprinters have won a few and the punchers have won a few over the last decade or so. A perfect scenario would be for a few to get away on the Poggio and us not know whether they bunch will catch them or not, right up until the last few seconds of the race. That could well end up with a Cav win, but be a thrilling finish.

Like in the WC in 2010 when the bunch caught Gilberts' chasers.

 

[Buffalo Soldier]

A sprinter still won this year despite a crash taking down more than half of the peloton.

How is one edition out of four won by non-sprinters balanced what so ever?

How is the exciting final of last year comparable with the dull bunch sprint finals of the past? Last year was not a sprint Sanremo, that's very clear, no?

 

[profff]

la primavera in the last 15 year has been one of the most boring race of the WT.
the teams are too strong, no space for attackers.
we all like this race just because is the first important race of the year; it comes after 5 months without exciting and important races in europe, it is really the start of the season we have been discussing about for months without any real race. mre than that, it is poetry, you start from the foggy milan and you arrive in the beautiful riviera in front of the sea : it is symbolic, we definitely leave a season without races and we are ready to see the big races every week....

i think the road should be changed to become a little more selective. it has not to became a hilly race, like lbl or lombardia, but a small climb before poggio will make the race much more exciting avoiding the primavera to be sprinter game reserve.

anyway, i will watch the sanremo every year, even knowing that it will be boring 80% of the years.
every year there will be dt saying that they will put the hammer down in the manie and it never happens ( only the first year after the introduction of the climb it happened in reality)

remember that when bettini won, capo noli was closed and they had to go up to the highway before finale, and was even harder than the manie...

 

[Kvinto]

Making Milan - Sanremo 'less boring' and more suitable for attackers would automatically make the greatest challenge in cycling i.e. winning all 5 monuments 'less awesome'. You can't make all the one day races under 'attackers (or whomever else) suitable' template, i have enough 'boringness' of 3 GTs that are for 'climbers that can tt' one day and 'time trialers that can climb' another day, leave the classics alone please

 

[El Pistolero]

How is the exciting final of last year comparable with the dull bunch sprint finals of the past? Last year was not a sprint Sanremo, that's very clear, no?

Just because a sprinter wins doesn't mean it can't be exciting. Thing is, people are saying San Remo is a well balanced classic with opportunities for both puncheurs and sprinters. But... Last 3 editions have been won by sprinters because San Remo just isn't a hard enough classic anymore. It needs to be that tiny bit harder for it to be more balanced in favor of the puncheurs. It will be a process of trial and error, but in the end we'll have a better classic to watch.

Last year was not a sprint, but a sprinter still won. It's practically impossible to win this race if you're a puncheur.