Vuelta a España La Vuelta Femenina 2023 (1st-7th May)

[Samu Cuenca]

Niewiadoma is not among the 21 riders listed in the front group, while Ivanchenko is, which I highly doubt is the case.

 

[BR2]

Niewiadoma is not among the 21 riders listed in the front group, while Ivanchenko is, which I highly doubt is the case.

yeah, the list seems nonsense

 

[Samu Cuenca]

yeah, the list seems nonsense

Ivanchenko is a bit of a mystery rider, to be fair, so who knows?

Kasia is apparently with Rooijakkers and Persico somewhere in-between the groups, so she might make it back. Žigart is also with them, but she probably started the climb in last position and lost a lot of time purely because of that.

 

[BR2]

Ivanchenko is a bit of a mystery rider, to be fair, so who knows?

Kasia is apparently with Rooijakkers and Persico somewhere in-between the groups, so she might make it back. Žigart is also with them, but she probably started the climb in last position and lost a lot of time purely because of that.

Yeah, maybe the list is correct after all. It reads strange, though.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

And the high speed has continued on the descent, and now it doesn't look like the Kasia group will come back, though the pace might drop again on the flat.

 

[BR2]

Okay, I wouldn't have let Niewiadoma and Persico come back in a "GT", but okay...

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Okay, I wouldn't have let Niewiadoma and Persico come back in a "GT", but okay...

Their teams did have a lot of riders in the group, so they're weren't many left to push on, and SD Worx won't do any work if they don't have to.

 

[BR2]

Their teams did have a lot of riders in the group, so they're weren't many left to push on, and SD Worx won't do any work if they don't have to.

I don't know. First of all I don't get why SD Worx don't work. Marlen Reusser alone could continue to keep the gap to those 3... And if they think someone like Niewiadoma is no threat for them anyway, then as a viewer I don't know why I should even watch women's cycling. There were enough riders who could all share the work a bit. They didn't have to ride like hell, just do some regular, constant work. It's not like those 3 behind are the best time trialers in the world and it's only 3 of them...
Really I don't get it. And now Lippert's group is coming closer again, as well... even if they won't catch them... maybe this "I'm protecting my 7th place in GC" in men's cycling isn't so bad after all. This feels like nobody cares.

 

[RedheadDane]

Crash by Fisher-Black and Santesteban.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I don't know. First of all I don't get why SD Worx don't work. Marlen Reusser alone could continue to keep the gap to those 3... And if they think someone like Niewiadoma is no threat for them anyway, then as a viewer I don't know why I should even watch women's cycling. There were enough riders who could all share the work a bit. They didn't have to ride like hell, just do some regular, constant work. It's not like those 3 behind are the best time trialers in the world and it's only 3 of them...
Really I don't get it. And now Lippert's group is coming closer again, as well... even if they won't catch them... maybe this "I'm protecting my 7th place in GC" in men's cycling isn't so bad after all. This feels like nobody cares.

I agree they're being stupid for allowing Lippert to come back as well, cause SDW, CSR, DSM and UAE should have an interest in her being distanced. Trek and FDJ want a stage win, so they can be excused, and Jayco shouldn't work either.

 

[BR2]

Anna van der Breggen is such a bad DS. I liked her a lot as a rider because she always came across as ambitious but not a cannibal. A nice, smart person.
But the tactical displays of SD Worx with her sitting in the team car are abysmal in my eyes. The team wins on strength of its riders alone. Maybe that's the only way she knows from her own time.

 

[ice&fire]

Detailed profile of the final climb

 

[RedheadDane]

"So, what colour polka dots should we have on the QoM jersey?"
"Yes!"

Red jersey group getting closer.

 

[theyoungest]

Anna van der Breggen is such a bad DS. I liked her a lot as a rider because she always came across as ambitious but not a cannibal. A nice, smart person.
But the tactical displays of SD Worx with her sitting in the team car are abysmal in my eyes. The team wins on strength of its riders alone. Maybe that's the only way she knows from her own time.

This kind of armchair quarterbacking always makes me laugh. Are you at the team meeting? Are you in the team car? Does Van der Breggen decide the tactics on her own?

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Anna van der Breggen is such a bad DS. I liked her a lot as a rider because she always came across as ambitious but not a cannibal. A nice, smart person.
But the tactical displays of SD Worx with her sitting in the team car are abysmal in my eyes. The team wins on strength of its riders alone. Maybe that's the only way she knows from her own time.

Based on what exactly? I think they've been pretty good this year. LBL was excellent, Strade looked bad but was actually fine as well. Only FW was a bit weird.

 

[Didinho]

Lovely climb, the scenery!

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Beautiful climb but expected a bit more action.

 

[Didinho]

Beautiful climb but expected a bit more action.

Try to follow Vollering tactics.

 

[RedheadDane]

Vollering just murders everyone.
Figuretively speaking.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Bauernfeind Brilliance replaces Gaia Greatness!
I'm also happy to see Baril finally getting another good result of her own.

 

[JosefK]

Vollering is even stronger than she was last year. Vleuty maybe a year too far, but still a great finish.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Bauernfeind the one Canyon rider who was caught up in G2 on the crosswind stage ends up being their best shot for GC, lol.
Think I also didn't appreciate enough how smoooooth Vollering looks climbing, magnificant style (maybe slightly influenced by how ugly AVVs style is).

 

[KZD]

Vollering just murders everyone.
Figuretively speaking.

Van Vleuten limit her losses pretty well. Lagos de Covadonga will be the real test.

 

[Didinho]

What happened to Fisher-Black? Vollering comforting her is nice to see.

 

[theyoungest]

As expected, Van Vleuten getting closer to Vollering once the climbs get longer... but she's not quite there yet.

Fisher-Black got screwed by the jury, for no reason at all, and she's understandably upset.