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Agreed with the posts above on the Recon Ride. I've listened to a few episodes here and there since back in their 1st episode and it's really not very good.

Shame Cosmo no longer does HTRWW, or at least not with any regularity. Because those are good in stage races and brilliant when it comes to 1 day races
 
Interesting that the man who shall not be named on this part of the forum is doing a daily podcast on this years tour. As much as a bell he might be, the first episode convinced me that it might be worth listening to (despite the sucking up from the other host), just from a different angle to the cycling podcast, recon ride etc.

Interesting to note, that according to Lance, he gave some tactical, and other advice to Tom Dumoulin during the giro.

http://lancearmstrong.com/stages
 
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Interesting that the man who shall not be named on this part of the forum is doing a daily podcast on this years tour. As much as a bell he might be, the first episode convinced me that it might be worth listening to (despite the sucking up from the other host), just from a different angle to the cycling podcast, recon ride etc.

Interesting to note, that according to Lance, he gave some tactical, and other advice to Tom Dumoulin during the giro.

http://lancearmstrong.com/stages

It's actually quite good. I've listened to the first two episodes so far. Recommended.
 
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I listen to the Velocast. It's behind a paywall, but it's well worth it. This Week in Cycling History with Cilian Kelly (irishpeloton.com) is worth the price alone (it's included with Velocast podcast subscription). Good stuff!

I used to listen to that before it went behind paywall.
Its too expensive IMO otherwise I would've been happy to pay them.
I figured their target market were cashed up MAMILs
 
One thing I'm really getting from the Armstrong podcast are some of the characteristics that made him such an imperious leader - definitely a high level of analytical intelligence. He gets the complexity of the race; sees institutional and political factors as being important to master as well as watts and descending skills. It's surprising how rarely that stuff ever gets mentioned by other commentators (who are usually retired pros too).

But also: even on the show he often comes fairly close to being - frankly - a bit of an a*hole. It's sort of always about Lance. But there is a power in that too - a kind of classic American entrepreneurial ambition that does get stuff done and does succeed. It's simultaneously unattractive and admirable.

There you go, that's my review.
 
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One thing I'm really getting from the Armstrong podcast are some of the characteristics that made him such an imperious leader - definitely a high level of analytical intelligence. He gets the complexity of the race; sees institutional and political factors as being important to master as well as watts and descending skills. It's surprising how rarely that stuff ever gets mentioned by other commentators (who are usually retired pros too).

But also: even on the show he often comes fairly close to being - frankly - a bit of an a*hole. It's sort of always about Lance. But there is a power in that too - a kind of classic American entrepreneurial ambition that does get stuff done and does succeed. It's simultaneously unattractive and admirable.

There you go, that's my review.

he is what he is
dont have to love the man, but there's value in what he's doing now

give him a chance to rebuild his life

he looks a lot older than his age by the way...stress has taken its toll
 
I know one more download won't do much, but the bigger your audience the easier it is to grow it. An ultimately the bigger your audience the bigger your influence, particularly in a pool as small as cycling. He's a smart an knowlegeable guy, for sure, but there's no insight from him that I'm willing to pay that price for. YMMV.
 
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One thing I'm really getting from the Armstrong podcast are some of the characteristics that made him such an imperious leader - definitely a high level of analytical intelligence. He gets the complexity of the race; sees institutional and political factors as being important to master as well as watts and descending skills. It's surprising how rarely that stuff ever gets mentioned by other commentators (who are usually retired pros too).

But also: even on the show he often comes fairly close to being - frankly - a bit of an a*hole. It's sort of always about Lance. But there is a power in that too - a kind of classic American entrepreneurial ambition that does get stuff done and does succeed. It's simultaneously unattractive and admirable.

There you go, that's my review.

Yep. Totally agree with you on this.
 
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One thing I'm really getting from the Armstrong podcast are some of the characteristics that made him such an imperious leader - definitely a high level of analytical intelligence. He gets the complexity of the race; sees institutional and political factors as being important to master as well as watts and descending skills. It's surprising how rarely that stuff ever gets mentioned by other commentators (who are usually retired pros too).


There you go, that's my review.

I don't watch his podcast, but what do you mean by that statement?
 
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I listen to the Velocast. It's behind a paywall, but it's well worth it. This Week in Cycling History with Cilian Kelly (irishpeloton.com) is worth the price alone (it's included with Velocast podcast subscription). Good stuff!

Long time lurker, first time poster. I came on to ask about cycling podcasts but found this post so will just add my two cents here.

I also used to listen to the Velocast before it went behind a paywall and I subscribed for a while afterward too. It wasn't so much the price of admission that made me think twice about continuing my subscription, but more to do with the editorial tone of the thing.

It seems to me a couple of years ago, they began an attempt to move into a more mainstream position with their content. The started 'The Interview' where if memory serves they had people like Brian Cookson and Fabian Cancellara on. But it went downhill after that. It's like they gave up and settled for what they were comfortable with instead of evolving.

Now all they seem to do is just watch TV and talk about what they saw on TV. Which is fine, but at the price they are charging? Not so fine.

I noticed too that they have purposely and pointedly taken a step back from Twitter because they think it's a cesspit. They're far from alone in that thought. But it appears to me that they have completely forgotten what made them a success in the first place. And now they have alienated themselves behind a paywall and have little or no interaction with listeners.

How do they expect to get new listeners? They're obviously happy with their position and don't feel the need to seek newbies. I think it also suits their tone of 'us' and 'them'. 'Us' being independent etc., and 'them' being 'the cycling media' establishment and other cycling podcasts. This is the main reason I went off them.

When you listen to a podcast, is it particularly the 'content' you are looking for (I know I hate that word too), or does the tone of the presenters trump everything else for you?
 
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The Hegelian said:
One thing I'm really getting from the Armstrong podcast are some of the characteristics that made him such an imperious leader - definitely a high level of analytical intelligence. He gets the complexity of the race; sees institutional and political factors as being important to master as well as watts and descending skills. It's surprising how rarely that stuff ever gets mentioned by other commentators (who are usually retired pros too).


There you go, that's my review.

I don't watch his podcast, but what do you mean by that statement?
Lance probably had the best understanding of factors "outside" of his control of any rider in the history of the sport. Some (or even a large part) belongs in the clinic but he understood the rivalries between teams and riders, how to make deals on the fly (CSC with Basso, and the 2004 Tour was a perfect example), and when to stand back and let rivals fight over scraps.

Armstrong disgusts me to the core as a human being but his intelligence and analysis as a rider really is exceptional. He has an amazing cycling brain. The only other English speaking commentator I've heard who comes close is Robbie McEwen.