lance armstrong, case closed.

[daviel]

This is all an enormous gas bag. It must drive the watchdogs crazy that they can't catch a violation. Well they haven't, so "onward!" I'm glad I dropped by Mellow Johnnie's last week and bought some t-shirts and a couple of yellow bracelets. Go Lance!!!

 

[Condorman]

Pretty pink bracelets for the Giro?

 

[mcspeedy]

Catch me if you can!

So, let me get this right.
The French hate Lance because all they see is the rear view of his bike!
Because they can't keep up with him, he must be doping.
They think he's doping, so they (and others) test him more than anyone.
Lance rightly states 'if you think i'm doping - prove it'.
Lance is still waiting!

Yep, he's never been proved to be a cheat, but Jalabert is a national hero
France - crap roads, crap bikes and the softest of riders.

 

[BigBoat]

The French dont really want Lance's head and they dont hate him... Anybody could stop Lance with a total body hemoglobin test (total blood volume tracking.) THis technology has been around since 1972 for F-ing sakes eh he he he. It has nothing to do with not being able to catch him.....

>>> The medical industry has grown far to large and a lot of the chemo boosters that help people are the same drugs the cyclists dope with.

Throw in BIG MONEY and you will never ever stop doping. If the prize for winning the Tour was a working class wage and maybe a chevy Camaro there wouldnt be 02 carriers and blood doping!

You think Dr. Michele Ferrari is poor? Heck no he's rich as hell!

Making $50 Million and getting on Jay Leno once a year is what has RUINED cycling, coupled with the UCI's liberal attitude towards drugs (the more drugs the better!!) They kept doctor Conconi as their medical commisioner, who HANDED THEM OUT to cyclists. Ha! When hundreds of vials and syringes were found at the 2001 Giro by Italian Para-military (thats right the Italian drug enforement army) the UCI said, "Oh that was an over-reaction by the police." Ha! Ya right!!

Think they have changed, heck no! As long as Garmin pays BIG MONEY for the riders to try and win, and Kazachstan wants a team to WIN and earn BIG Tourism ad spend for their country, guess what they must MAKE SURE that they win!

Not to mention the fact that the vast majority of pros dope, if more than 30 guys come into the Tour or Giro blood doping nobody will finish the thing clean. Nobody. The pace becomes too high, in fact any freak clean rider would be dropped 15 minutes into a 60 minute climb. By by.

There is something called a time cut. 8% of the winner's time... 12%.... Whatever the UCI decides eh he he he.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Giro del Trentino going on now. LBL this Sunday; Romandie starts next Tuesday; Dunkirk on the 5th; and the Giro on the 9th. Let's talk racing!

Exactly.
Both the Alps and the Dolomites are now coming into play.
LBL is the GT man's classic.
Dunkirk's a great little stager, which will have live net feed on, just as the Giro gets underway.

Best part of the season, IMO and all people want to do is b*tt head's trying to pin the blame for something over nothing.

 

[podilato]

Never Doped

I would never question Eddy Merckx greatness...Legendary...And I do understand that there are great Classics, and other Grand Tours that Lance never or rarely participated in. You say anyone can dominate with a needle in their (insert body part here)...Are you a doctor or an Anti-doping official? You have proof that he doped? No you dont. A lot of riders have doped that have been caught and paid the price. But nothing takes the place of a negative test. That is all you or I have to go by, and he never failed. EVER

That's the argument that's spouted ad nauseam. The following riders also never proved positive: Riis, Virenque, Millar, Moreau, Zulle, Frigo to mention a few. Why do you think Armstrong has never defended himself in court? Virenque was only caught when he had to answer under oath the question of wether he had doped.

I think cycling is quickly becoming a joke. Quick Step is run by a team manager who signed Virenque whilst he was still serving his ban for drugs; most of the Festina riders of 1998 found other teams straight away; Saxo Bank is run by a manger who has admitted to winning the Tour by doping; Valverdde is still allowed to ride when CONI have recommended a two year ban; Tom Boonen is still a star despite proving positive for cocaine and being caught twice for speeding and subsequently being banned from driving.

Could you imagine a football manger been given a job not long after serving a ban for match fixing?


With 'friends' like this in cycling who needs enemies?

 

[bianchigirl]

Moderators, please sort out the racism inherent in this thread - the xenophobia and hatred is alarming and gives a poor impression of this otherwise entertaining forum.

 

[cycutza]

give it a rest for f*** sake! Go Lance, go LBL, get on to the Giro and get on with cycling.

 

[cyclelicious]

Moderators, please sort out the racism inherent in this thread - the xenophobia and hatred is alarming and gives a poor impression of this otherwise entertaining forum.

Ah, but your special brand of xenophobia, hatred and adolescent name calling is A-ok, right BG?

 

[SpeedWay]

give it a rest for f*** sake! Go Lance, go LBL, get on to the Giro and get on with cycling.

They don't have much of a choice now but to whine about the decision. But you can be sure the same people who hate Lance will be resting up for the next opportunity to spew their hatred all over these boards. Basically petty people with no life that hate Lance more than they love cycling.

 

[BigBoat]

Tune in and watch Circus freaks pedal bikes across the boring countryside. Fall asleep on the couch (but keep the TV on to boost ratings/ ad spend value.) We believe in everything we say because we believe it, were from America! Lots of new posters on here now to aid Lance.

Live strong and root for blood doping , 02 carriers, HGH, analgesics, chemo boosters, etc!!!

IN the opening road stage watch the animal freak Circus cages opened up!

I wonder who's drugs are better this year?

Which Guinny pig can pedal faster?

 

[BigBoat]

I have a little theory for the French...Start pouring all the effort you have to discredit one of the best cyclist of all times (if not the best) into your Jr. Teams...Then maybe you will develop a rider who could actually contend for Le Tour. Ciao

3 of Lance Armstong's 1990 Junior A squad equivalent teamates were sick from being doped with Cortizone & steroid overdoses at age 17 by then USA Cycling employee Rene Wenzel. They also were given vasoconstrictors, caffeine suppositories.

Gerrik Latta
Erich Kaiter (Crohn's disease)
Greg Strock (human parvovirus B19 infection * dirty needles)

 

[Makuri]

Actually it was Armstrong who made the big stink about possible sanctions; AFLD just said it was considering its options. I don't disrespect Armstrong but I think he has a tendency to pre-emptively defend himself against exaggerated adversity as a way of riling his fans up, e.g. suggesting that he might get physically assaulted on the streets of France if he tries to race the Tour.

Lance only Twittered about it AFTER ALFD issued/leaked a release claiming irregularity in the testing. Why didn't they complain right after the test? Why wait several weeks?

 

[BigBoat]

Twitter lance Twitter twitter LiveStrong Lance Twitters... Before it was a Fakebook account or Myspace?

Be hip lance, connect. Twittering is now "in."

Cow blood is out.

Grow the brand potential to make more money and buy more stuff (like the Amaury sports organizations TDF) and sponsor the powerful chemo boosters/ anti-anemia manufacturers.

The bigger the fight to keep sick people alive and suffering longer >> the higher Lance's sustainable power based success reaches in Time Trials and mountain climbs.

 

[msjett]

Speculate wildly by all means....why the hell not!

The decision not to ban him or fine him comes as a surprise. Well sort of.

Makes you wonder what the truth is, but as it's case closed we ain't likely to find out.

 

[fitzyboy]

Craziness

WOW, is it me or are there a lot of conspiracists these days? Get over it people, this is cycling and I doubt that the nation of Khazikstan, or the leaders of Saxobank are betting their entire fortunes on the jerseys of a bunch of guys in tights!

Yeah, guys doped in the past, but even if everyone doped, LANCE BLEW THEM AWAY!!! Don't tell me he was doping, yet all the contenders minutes behind him didn't have as good of, or any drugs too! Now, cycling is the most heavily tested sport, bar none.

Being in the military and subjected to regular testing myself, there is nothing that can be done short of substituting urine, to mask ones results in the same day without it being evident in the sample. I imagine the tester witnessed the urine "leaving the body and entering the sample container" so I doubt he was able to slip any shelved urine in there. Otherwise, all you haters and wackos are drawing at straws to further discredit this guy.

And, of course he was over protective and aggressive in his defense, everyone east of the Atlantic wants him to be guilty and have barraged him with accusations for as long as he has been winning. As has been said already time and time again, if he is doping... PROVE IT, INDISPUTABLY!!! Otherwise, shut it and ride a bike!

 

[franciep10]

Let's not forget Tour of Romandie a great giro warm up and it was a good race last year, as for LBL im picking either Valverde or Schleck one of them could do it.

 

[BikeCentric]

Let's not forget Tour of Romandie a great giro warm up and it was a good race last year, as for LBL im picking either Valverde or Schleck one of them could do it.

I'm putting my cash on Cunego for LBL.

 

[BikeCentric]

Twitter lance Twitter twitter LiveStrong Lance Twitters... Before it was a Fakebook account or Myspace?

Be hip lance, connect. Twittering is now "in."

Cow blood is out.

Grow the brand potential to make more money and buy more stuff (like the Amaury sports organizations TDF) and sponsor the powerful chemo boosters/ anti-anemia manufacturers.

The bigger the fight to keep sick people alive and suffering longer >> the higher Lance's sustainable power based success reaches in Time Trials and mountain climbs.

Hey BigBoat didn't you get the memo? You don't need to be a big-salary rider to get the good stuff anymore; Kayle got his "prescription" for only $500.00:

http://www.universalsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=23000&ATCLID=3627132

That's 7 boxes of EPO and 2 boxes of HGH for 5 hundie buddy. Just go snag a few primes when the field is tired and you can ring that cash register right up!

 

[ElChingon]

... You don't need to be a big-salary rider to get the good stuff anymore; Kayle got his "prescription" for only $500.00:

http://www.universalsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=23000&ATCLID=3627132

That's 7 boxes of EPO and 2 boxes of HGH for 5 hundie buddy. Just go snag a few primes when the field is tired and you can ring that cash register right up!

Nice link, I'm sure I had read something similar but the pics are great!

 

[unsheath]

Never tested postitive blah blah blah. Perhaps some of the new posters on here should do some background research on their false hero rather than formulating opinions based on Lance biographies. Like ostriches with their heads in the sand.

And by the way, I ride my bike plenty thanks.

 

[BroDeal]

Being in the military and subjected to regular testing myself, there is nothing that can be done short of substituting urine, to mask ones results in the same day without it being evident in the sample. I imagine the tester witnessed the urine "leaving the body and entering the sample container" so I doubt he was able to slip any shelved urine in there. Otherwise, all you haters and wackos are drawing at straws to further discredit this guy.

Wow. Clueless.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

That's what I was thinking.

 

[BikeCentric]

Wow. Clueless.

Well he's clueless about bike racing yeah that much is clear. Funny how people like to give their opinion on matters they know nothing about.

 

[grimpeur]

Funny thing the French haters never acknowledge is the fact that without this sport the French created and the race that Henri Desgrange started, Lance Armstrong would probably not have any of the wealth or fame he has today.

The Tour de France creates champions, not the other way around.

Regarding the state of French roads, they're quite nice. Bonus, during the summer certain famous climbs in the Alps are blocked to auto traffic on selected mornings (9-12) to allow cyclists to ride the climbs without interference. I believe some passes even have a timer on the climb to time your ride.

France = cycling nirvana