Barrus said:
Of the twenty threads on the front page of this forum 8 are, or have posts in them
clearly talking about Lance. Quite understandable if you see the current investigation, and the fact that this is an mostly anglo-phone forum. If the allegations of Landis were not around the talk about Lance would probably has diminished as no new news stories would come out. If it had not come out we probably still would be talking about the relevations about Leipheimer.
Luckily we have a lot less troll-characters now than before and the talk about Lance has diminished quite dramatically as well. (hell, in the beginning of the Landis affaire we hade a whole page of new clinic threads each day, all about Lance). In general people are free here to speak their minds, to certain extent. The fact that we have more outspoken Armstrong "haters" than "fanboys" ensures that the overall tone is quite anti-Armstrong.
I do agree with you that I am not of the opinion that other threads need to devolve into Armstrong threads and I have been quite vocal about that, and often split up threads, or deleted posts, due to this. The best threads in this topic are not about LA, for example the Koechli & Helvetia thread has beenquite informative, as is the recurring thread about average speeds. But in threads about LA, ro closely linked to LA, don't start moaning about talk of LA.
But about the smile: I always go into the firing squad with a great wide sh
it-eating grin. It's the only way to get out alive
I think you start calculating right and had a look. Thats good.
Yes the overalltone is "hating Armstrong" everywhere and everytime.
Because the people responsible in this forum like it like that, they obviously support it (even with their own posts), and let it happen without any critic or doing something. Others dopers are handled in 2-3 posts and even seem to be something like a holy grale here.
And don´t tell me this is because of Landis accusations.
The hate and support of the haters is also happening in the sports-aspect for a long long time now. Same goes for the clinic.
Landis is just the icing and the name to hide behind.
Every cyclist and doper is handled with kid gloves here - except of Armstrong.
Say something bad about someone else and you have a big problem with the haters and even with people in responsible positions here.
Sometimes it is enough just NOT to hate Armstrong.
Its all so obvious and the machine is running with full speed.
Just go on like this. Hating is just sooo easy, you need nothing for that, swim with the majority - hating is fine, hating is trend, just hate (sorry Nike).
The end of the story will be, that Admins/Mods/forum are alone with all these haters. Don´t tell me later, that I didn´t warn you.
Exactly the same was going on on German forums about Ullrich. EXACTLY like it is here now.
Some forums are completely dead because there were only all these just-hate people left, who finally hated eachother after some time and there were no more "normal, objective, realistic" people left to discuss - because of all theses haters and 1000 Ullrich(doping/hate/laughabout/fat lazy/fraud)threads.
Yes !
Its not all about/against you, Barrus. I cover some of your thoughts.
But this is no more fun whats going on here. Perhaps your fellow admins should think for a minute about what I said, too. If they want and can understand what I mean.