The problem with many here is that even if you accept that he doped amoung doped riders which I now believe, it's not enough.Amsterhammer said:Oh, you're next then?
No, I complained about the bitter, twisted, sweeping attacks made on a rider I have much time for and have enjoyed watching for many years. If said poster uses irony or humor, you're welcome to point it out. All I see is an inflated ego that sanctimoniously preaches from on high.
How do you counter blanket, sweeping accusations about everything under the sun? Repeat rants often enough and some people will believe them, huh? Lance is responsible for this, Lance is responsible for that, Lance has always been the super-doper who gets away with it where others don't. The lot of you haters here do nothing except hurl accusations that you can never prove. Of course, there were six (was it?) positive samples of his, but being Lance, he had the entire cycling establishment as well as the Tour organization (who have always been his good buddies, right?) in his pocket, with the result that he was never prosecuted, sanctioned or banned for any of the offenses that you lot here consistently accuse him of.
Show me the evidence. Show the world the evidence. Prove one single accusation with hard, undisputed, proven facts instead of cynically accusing the man of every crime under the sun with sweeping generalizations that reek of bitterness and envy.
I guess they had their own favorite doped riders those years. Or they'll point to some top ten guy they swear was clean and rant about how unfair it was that Lance won. The other 8 could all be dopers and still it's about Lance.
I'm a cycling fan not a lance fan, albeit from an American perspective, but the more they rant against Lance the more I'm pulling for him.
Mabye this is what Johan meant when he said winning alone doesn't do it for him any more. He and Lance have historically thrived on this kind of stuff.
Don't let a couple of people drive you off of here. There are some really great posters here and the occasional word from an insider. There are some people here who love cycling. Find the thread called "mountain feeling" I think and you can tell.
But don't take any guff from them either.