Lance or Weisel? Who tosses who first.

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Oldman said:
The group that travelled through the Eddie B/USACycling to USPS/Motorola system wasn't that large, partially because of the PED stuff that's coming to light now. I'll keep saying that many of the most talented riders from the US quit rather than yield to using PEDs. As Weisel was capable of cornering much of the emerging talent and sponsorship there weren't many options for amateurs on the way up. It would be the rare talent like Scott McKinley that managed to perform as a relatively pristine cyclist.
Coors Light and other teams have been exposed as less organized versions of the same model. The number of Aussie and New Zealanders that came here could give you a clue to the pedigree and "professionalism" that was expected in a fairly small pro peloton amd should be familiar to many on your side of Earth.
+1 to the Scott Mckinley reference. One of the good guys from that era for sure. Will never forget when he ended up on the wrong side of a concrete garbage can at a crit in - if I remember right it was Sacremento..his home town maybe? - he busted up his entire inners. What is he up to these days?
 
Aug 13, 2009
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Weisel is in trouble

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-01-15/will-thomas-weisel-the-owner-of-lance-armstrongs-u-dot-s-dot-postal-team-get-charged-with-fraud#p1

By 2004, however, Armstrong had taken an 11.5 percent ownership stake in the firm, his agent Stapleton said during a 2005 deposition in the SCA litigation. Yet six years later, after Landis had told federal investigators of widespread doping on the Postal Service team, Armstrong told the New York Times that “the most glaring thing is the misconception that I was the owner of the team. That’s completely untrue. No ownership. None at all.”
In his recent book The Secret Race, Hamilton recalled Weisel in those years as “almost another coach”
Steffen complained in faxes to Weisel that he was losing his job because he refused to allow drugs on the team. “What could a Spanish doctor, completely unknown to the organization, offer that I can’t or won’t,” he wrote, referring to his replacement, Ceyala. “Doping is the fairly obvious answer,” he said. He also warned that Johnny Weltz, the newly hired road manager, was a reputed drug cheat
Emma O’Reilly claimed she had witnessed Weisel huddling with Armstrong in the cyclist’s massage room, “frantic about what to do about the positive test.”
LeMond said, he got a threatening call from Weisel. “What you’re saying about Lance isn’t good for you,”
Armstrong dismissed LeMond in public statements as a jealous, unstable malcontent, the media and fans largely ignored the former champion’s criticism. Instead, Armstrong was lionized.
 
Oct 14, 2012
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And what is truly amazing about this story is that the same core of the Montogomery team is STILL going AND in charge of "developing" juniors. Weisel has created an infrastructure that is almost mafia-like: friends, banking colleagues, family and wannabes altogether in the USAC, USAC Development Foundation, and Team Specialized Masters/Juniors. How many of the parents of those juniors being developed by Team Specialized (which is just a front for Weisel) know this history, or are they just turning a blind eye? Is USADA keeping a close eye on them?
 
TrackCynic said:
And what is truly amazing about this story is that the same core of the Montogomery team is STILL going AND in charge of "developing" juniors.
Please be aware that USAC has no authority over USACDF. None. So, there is no such thing as USACDF operating "inside" USAC. This opens up the door to doing all kinds of things forbidden by IOC rules, UCI rules, or even USAC rules including doping. There's *way* more bad stuff going on there. What exactly? I don't know. Thom's leading the charge(ing) is all one needs to know to suspect it.

Probably worse than that though are the Senior KM's a number of those kids are doing. Imagine all the hours and hours put in and then your parents pay dearly for the privilege of flying the kid to far-off places to race.

More than one kid's confidence takes a big hit riding against international talent. Far away from American law, parents, and steeped in the competitive environment supercharged with their desire to do well, the doping is introduced privately. It is pretty easy to start doping in that scenario. Many didn't and moved on. But, some doped and they were rewarded with a shot at the elite ranks. Thank you USACDF!
 
Oct 16, 2010
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Steffen complained in faxes to Weisel that he was losing his job because he refused to allow drugs on the team. “What could a Spanish doctor, completely unknown to the organization, offer that I can’t or won’t,” he wrote, referring to his replacement, Ceyala. “Doping is the fairly obvious answer,” he said. He also warned that Johnny Weltz, the newly hired road manager, was a reputed drug cheat
that's interesting.
steffen warns weisel that weltz is not to be trusted.
they don't seem to have a problem with each other at garmin.
 
Jun 19, 2009
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Page Mill Masochist said:
The BusinessWeek story was published a month ago. Any signs it has legs?
Any direct indictment of him would need to carry DJ or others to illegal money transfers. Popo and boys getting lunchbag money would be a start.
 

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