Le Tour '19 stage 19: Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne > Tignes 126km

[ice&fire]

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Am I seeing things? Valverde in the break?[/quote

Don't worry, it won't last long.

Gutted for Pinot. Need Movistar to cause havoc now then they could get on the podium.

They'll send their 3rd man up the road to gain just enough time to overtake his two co-leaders.

 

[ppanther92]

Re: Le Tour '19 stage 19: Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne > Tignes 1

Good shouts.
To add a few, the Brazilian marathoner who got taken out by the supporter in Athens, when he could have won the gold, and Lindsey Jacobellis having the gold medal won but going for a trick because - why not. Ah, that's why

Lindsey Jacobellis was kind of funny to watch. The Brazilian marathoner was heartbreaking though.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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Unfortunate for Pinot. This is his career in a nutshell though, so honestly it's hard to be surprised by this.

And still he is linearily getting better every year. So i am sure he will have another shot at the win. But of course he will also be 30 next year.

He is, but his GT results unfortunately speak for themselves. After his third place in the Tour 2014, his results are DNF, 16, DNF, 4, DNF, DNF, 6, DNF. Let's hope he bounces back though, but my hopes aren't high and haven't been in a long time.

 

[ppanther92]

Why is Bardet not going with Aru/De Gendt/Kreuziger, who are bridging now?

 

[Red Rick]

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Why is Bardet not going with Aru/De Gendt/Kreuziger, who are bridging now?

He was in the breakaway but got dropped

 

[Pantani Attacks]

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Why is Bardet not going with Aru/De Gendt/Kreuziger, who are bridging now?

He was already being dropped earlier from the main group....doesn't have the legs

 

[ppanther92]

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Why is Bardet not going with Aru/De Gendt/Kreuziger, who are bridging now?

He was in the breakaway but got dropped

Oh, ok. Didn't see that. Guess he also doesn't have the legs for KOM then (like Wellens).

 

[happytramp]

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Unfortunate for Pinot. This is his career in a nutshell though, so honestly it's hard to be surprised by this.

And still he is linearily getting better every year. So i am sure he will have another shot at the win. But of course he will also be 30 next year.

That's probably when most endurance athletes are at their peak combination of strenght and experience.

 

[Red Rick]

Nibali promoted to being a KoM domestique

 

[memyselfandI]

Re: Le Tour '19 stage 19: Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne > Tignes 1

Now as Pinot is out, results are final. As it can be seen Ineos is doing nothing, obviously they are satisfied. Negative racing suits fine for Alaphilippe. Prolly he comes down from Iseran first together with Nibs, half a minute margin

 

[ppanther92]

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Nibali promoted to being a KoM domestique

At least this TdF has something meaningful in it for him then.

 

[Red Rick]

How much time does the break need at the bottom of the Iseran?

 

[DenisMenchov]

If Caruso gets 40 points atop of Iseran, I think he takes the Jersey to Paris.

 

[Red Rick]

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If Caruso gets 40 points atop of Iseran, I think he takes the Jersey to Paris.

Is it seriously 40 points?

 

[DenisMenchov]

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If Caruso gets 40 points atop of Iseran, I think he takes the Jersey to Paris.

Is it seriously 40 points?

Yes, every HC climb higher than 2000m is doubled

 

[Finn84]

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If Caruso gets 40 points atop of Iseran, I think he takes the Jersey to Paris.

Is it seriously 40 points?

They have double points in finishes and over 2000m climbs.

 

[carton]

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How much time does the break need at the bottom of the Iseran?

Some really good riders in that break. But a few of those will drop back to help. So I'd say 3 mins at least, probably more like 5.

 

[HelloDolly]

Adam Yates dropped from the peloton

Simon Yates upfront

???????????????

 

[Pantani Attacks]

Don't tell me what to do Rob Hatch, do what I want mate.

 

[RedheadDane]

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Adam Yates dropped from the peloton

Simon Yates upfront

???????????????

Simon to (once again) save the family-honour.
Adam just not having a good Tour.

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Adam Yates dropped from the peloton

Simon Yates upfront

???????????????

Adam is 26th/27th on GC. Why wouldn’t Simon be given free reign?

 

[tobydawq]

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If Caruso gets 40 points atop of Iseran, I think he takes the Jersey to Paris.

Is it seriously 40 points?

Yes, every HC climb higher than 2000m is doubled

Which means every HC climb

 

[Blanco]

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How much time does the break need at the bottom of the Iseran?

Some really good riders in that break. But a few of those will drop back to help. So I'd say 3 mins at least, probably more like 5.

I can't see peloton going faster than the break on Iseran. Who's gonna pull, Deceuninck? Castro is dead, only Poels is left. FDJ won't chase now, Jumbo has De Plus in the break, and in the break strongest guys will go full gas.

 

[staubsauger]

Re: Le Tour '19 stage 19: Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne > Tignes 1

On a lighter note, after the Pinot tragedy, at least Ineos will win another Tour. :lol:

That's the ultimate disaster. Thomas' chances to win the Tour have just gone up dramatically. Bernal won't be allowed to react. Steven K. and Buchmann are only interested in a place of honour. Pinot was the guy who closed the gap on Thomas yesterday. The others didn't even react.

That'd be horrible! Completely undeserved victory if it happens. Thomas was worse than Bernal on every high mountains stage. This morning, the New Kid On The Block finally was promoted into team-leadership. Now Ineos can just arrange Thomas winning the Tour nevertheless. The worst part is, if not for Thomas openly revealing what a sleazy rat he is yesterday, Bernal actually would be so close to yellow he'd still end-up captain the teams gc ambitions! Now Thomas might get rewarded for his lousiness!

Thomas had zero proper preparation, was worse than Bernal on every proper mountain stage, crashed again at the start of the week and yet, might still win the 2019 Tour de France by scripted reality. And it really would be scripted reality this time around.

Seriously, I'm begging it doesn't happen, but I fear the worst... They are such a stupid, nationalistic team after all!

 

[JosephK]

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Unfortunate for Pinot. This is his career in a nutshell though, so honestly it's hard to be surprised by this.

Absolutely brutal but it could've been worse. Imagine if the crosswinds hadn't happened and he was in yellow at this point.

Yes, who could have thought when it happened that the crosswinds stage would at this point provide a small measure of mercy?