Le Tour 2018 stage 14: Saint-Paul-3-Ch. > Mende 188 km

[Hayabusa]

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Dumoulin should attack here. This climb suits him well.

Dumoulin's getting dropped...

Love it how people keep getting fooled everytime :lol:

Well he gained nothing. Cemented his 3rd place atleast.

 

[movingtarget]

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So it's between a track rider, a sick man, a former ski jumper and a Dutch TTer who discovered at some point that he can climb.

That requires a Hollywood script meeting, an audience with the Pope or some brainstorming with international sports scientists or maybe just invite them all..........

 

[wirral]

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Some sort of liquid was thrown at Froome up the final climb, but it ended up hitting Bardet in the face who was behind him.

Copeland said "'Don’t stay behind Froome, it’s dangerous". Guess he was right.

I saw that. I don't have one of those groovy replay tv's but it looked yellow.

 

[Lequack]

GC:

 

[YavorD]

I find this as a kinda funny/interesting situation. The top 4 TT riders and the 4 with the biggest question mark are thee leaders and the strongest at the moment.. But Thomas and Roglic are yet to prove that they can keep it up 3 weeks and Froome and Dumoulin can still be hit by the Giro.
Shame that ASO didnt make a proper mountain stage it the 3rd week.

 

[ice&fire]

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Some sort of liquid was thrown at Froome up the final climb, but it ended up hitting Bardet in the face who was behind him.

That was probably some sort of syrup for his asthma

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Some sort of liquid was thrown at Froome up the final climb, but it ended up hitting Bardet in the face who was behind him.

Copeland said "'Don’t stay behind Froome, it’s dangerous". Guess he was right.

Im sure Froome wouldn’t mind if everyone started giving him a few metres gap.

Would be ironic if it was something very unpleasant thrown by a Frenchman and it landed in the face of their big GC hope. Hopefully the police catch up with the culprit.

 

[Vino's Mum]

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GC riders:

Roglic
Froome, Dumoulin, Thomas +8
Quintana +18
Kruijswijk, Bardet +22
Zakarin +32
Valverde, Fuglsang, Landa +37
Jungels +52
Martin +1'51

Kinda scary seeing how comfortable Bernal looked coming across the line with Bardet and Kruijswijk.

 

[Salvarani]

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Guess Movistar needs a couple more leaders.

Or simply better form and shape. Always doom and gloom on here.

Or a healthy Landa? They knew coming into the Tour Valverde had no intention on having any kind of form for this race. He's made it very clear that it's not one of his goals and that his plan all along was to save his 2nd peak for the Vuelta/Worlds combo at the end of the season instead of doing his normal 3 peaks for a season.

Why did I get three sentences about Valverde from my post?

Quintana obivously dont have the form and shape. Landas form and shape obviously took a hit from his crash and Valverde I think we all expected to be a little better at least.

So what was wrong with what I said lol. They simply not at their best... sometimes you win and some you lose. I expect Movistar to bounce back in the Vuelta.

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Some sort of liquid was thrown at Froome up the final climb, but it ended up hitting Bardet in the face who was behind him.

That was probably some sort of syrup for his asthma

Bardet has asthma too? :lol:

 

[movingtarget]

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GC riders:

Roglic
Froome, Dumoulin, Thomas +8
Quintana +18
Kruijswijk, Bardet +22
Zakarin +32
Valverde, Fuglsang, Landa +37
Jungels +52
Martin +1'51

Kinda scary seeing how comfortable Bernal looked coming across the line with Bardet and Kruijswijk.

Landa Version 2

 

[franic]

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I find this as a kinda funny/interesting situation. The top 4 TT riders and the 4 with the biggest question mark are thee leaders and the strongest at the moment.. But Thomas and Roglic are yet to prove that they can keep it up 3 weeks and Froome and Dumoulin can still be hit by the Giro.
Shame that ASO didnt make a proper mountain stage it the 3rd week.

They should start thinking about dropping Dumo, otherwise they are risking a lot with the final TT

 

[BullsFan22]

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GC riders:

Roglic
Froome, Dumoulin, Thomas +8
Quintana +18
Kruijswijk, Bardet +22
Zakarin +32
Valverde, Fuglsang, Landa +37
Jungels +52
Martin +1'51

Looks like Zakarin is on the rise, it is coming down to the nitty gritty. It's too bad that he lost so much on the Alpe. I think he can challenge for a stage in the Pyrenees. But the overall tour profile just doesn't suit him.

 

[movingtarget]

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I find this as a kinda funny/interesting situation. The top 4 TT riders and the 4 with the biggest question mark are thee leaders and the strongest at the moment.. But Thomas and Roglic are yet to prove that they can keep it up 3 weeks and Froome and Dumoulin can still be hit by the Giro.
Shame that ASO didnt make a proper mountain stage it the 3rd week.

They should start thinking about dropping Dumo, otherwise they are risking a lot with the final TT

It's not for lack of trying.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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I find this as a kinda funny/interesting situation. The top 4 TT riders and the 4 with the biggest question mark are thee leaders and the strongest at the moment.. But Thomas and Roglic are yet to prove that they can keep it up 3 weeks and Froome and Dumoulin can still be hit by the Giro.
Shame that ASO didnt make a proper mountain stage it the 3rd week.

They should start thinking about dropping Dumo, otherwise they are risking a lot with the final TT

I think not. Thomas lost '50 to Dumoulin, while being injured, in the Giro 2017 TT.

If he's fit he probably won't even lose 10/20 seconds. If the standings are like this going into the TT then Thomas wins the TDF. Froome might have to worry about his 2nd place though. Both Roglic and Dumo are better

 

[franic]

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I find this as a kinda funny/interesting situation. The top 4 TT riders and the 4 with the biggest question mark are thee leaders and the strongest at the moment.. But Thomas and Roglic are yet to prove that they can keep it up 3 weeks and Froome and Dumoulin can still be hit by the Giro.
Shame that ASO didnt make a proper mountain stage it the 3rd week.

They should start thinking about dropping Dumo, otherwise they are risking a lot with the final TT

It's not for lack of trying.

I think G could have gained more if he stopped caring about Froomey

 

[Koronin]

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Guess Movistar needs a couple more leaders.

Or simply better form and shape. Always doom and gloom on here.

Or a healthy Landa? They knew coming into the Tour Valverde had no intention on having any kind of form for this race. He's made it very clear that it's not one of his goals and that his plan all along was to save his 2nd peak for the Vuelta/Worlds combo at the end of the season instead of doing his normal 3 peaks for a season.

Why did I get three sentences about Valverde from my post?

Quintana obivously dont have the form and shape. Landas form and shape obviously took a hit from his crash and Valverde I think we all expected to be a little better at least.

So what was wrong with what I said lol. They simply not at their best... sometimes you win and some you lose. I expect Movistar to bounce back in the Vuelta.

Without the crash Landa would be up there. His form is fine, his back is another story. He apparently said after the stage it's getting worse not better. Add to that it seems that the team has no idea what it's doing either.

 

[franic]

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I find this as a kinda funny/interesting situation. The top 4 TT riders and the 4 with the biggest question mark are thee leaders and the strongest at the moment.. But Thomas and Roglic are yet to prove that they can keep it up 3 weeks and Froome and Dumoulin can still be hit by the Giro.
Shame that ASO didnt make a proper mountain stage it the 3rd week.

They should start thinking about dropping Dumo, otherwise they are risking a lot with the final TT

I think not. Thomas lost '50 to Dumoulin, while being injured, in the Giro 2017 TT.

If he's fit he probably won't even lose 10/20 seconds. If the standings are like this going into the TT then Thomas wins the TDF. Froome might have to worry about his 2nd place though. Both Roglic and Dumo are better

I was specifically talking about Froome, believe G when he says that he races for his captain. What I want to say is that it's time for Sky to decide whether to support G or Froome, because Dumo can be very dangerous in the end.

 

[RedheadDane]

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So it's between a track rider, a sick man, a former ski jumper and a Dutch guy named Dumoulin.

So, you're saying that Dutch guys named Dumoulin are kinda unusual for being GT contenders?

 

[Gigs_98]

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I find this as a kinda funny/interesting situation. The top 4 TT riders and the 4 with the biggest question mark are thee leaders and the strongest at the moment.. But Thomas and Roglic are yet to prove that they can keep it up 3 weeks and Froome and Dumoulin can still be hit by the Giro.
Shame that ASO didnt make a proper mountain stage it the 3rd week.

The stage to Laruns is pretty hard. I generally agree though that this is a weird situation. There could be a lot of cracking and riders making big jumps forward in the third week. Looking at you mikel

 

[telencefalus]

not bad by quintana i'm sure he wants to win a stage,btw time of roglic 9.13 10 sec slower than epo time

 

[Gigs_98]

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So it's between a track rider, a sick man, a former ski jumper and a Dutch guy named Dumoulin.

So, you're saying that Dutch guys named Dumoulin are kinda unusual for being GT contenders?

Afaik he isn't the first one

 

[Salvarani]

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Guess Movistar needs a couple more leaders.

Or simply better form and shape. Always doom and gloom on here.

Or a healthy Landa? They knew coming into the Tour Valverde had no intention on having any kind of form for this race. He's made it very clear that it's not one of his goals and that his plan all along was to save his 2nd peak for the Vuelta/Worlds combo at the end of the season instead of doing his normal 3 peaks for a season.

Why did I get three sentences about Valverde from my post?

Quintana obivously dont have the form and shape. Landas form and shape obviously took a hit from his crash and Valverde I think we all expected to be a little better at least.

So what was wrong with what I said lol. They simply not at their best... sometimes you win and some you lose. I expect Movistar to bounce back in the Vuelta.

Without the crash Landa would be up there. His form is fine, his back is another story. He apparently said after the stage it's getting worse not better. Add to that it seems that the team has no idea what it's doing either.

Well, being unhealthy affects the form. If you just wanted to quote me to say he that he is not healthy, and that would be the correct statement, you wasted your time.

Not disagreeing with the other things since I pointed that out too

 

[Pricey_sky]

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I find this as a kinda funny/interesting situation. The top 4 TT riders and the 4 with the biggest question mark are thee leaders and the strongest at the moment.. But Thomas and Roglic are yet to prove that they can keep it up 3 weeks and Froome and Dumoulin can still be hit by the Giro.
Shame that ASO didnt make a proper mountain stage it the 3rd week.

They should start thinking about dropping Dumo, otherwise they are risking a lot with the final TT

Thomas won’t lose 1m 50 in that TT, it’s Dumoulin who needs to pull out time. He only put 13s into Froome in the slightly longer Giro TT, and trails him by 11s.

Obviously if Thomas cracks then Froome does need a few seconds.

 

[franic]

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So it's between a track rider, a sick man, a former ski jumper and a Dutch guy named Dumoulin.

So, you're saying that Dutch guys named Dumoulin are kinda unusual for being GT contenders?

Not unusual, but having G, Tom and Froome reminds us of the glorious age when Riis, Ullrich, and Virenque were contending the Tour. At least from physical appearence