davidg said:I generally try to avoid the LA/CC threads for fear of being accused a fanboy (which I am not), but out of curiosity, I had a look at the La Ruta deal.
12 days of training camps at average of $550/day
7 months of premium coaching @ $335/month.
Now I am not going to argue the value of the coaching or anything else, but the daily cost of the training camps is substantially lower than you would pay for most business conferences, and coaching is CC's business.
It is a case of supply and demand. Everybody will try and charge the most they can on the basis of take-up. In other words, as long as the courses are full, then one could argue that the price is appropriate.
If you don't think it is value - dont go.
I couldn't be bothered to look up the cost of entering La Ruta directly and providing your own support (presumably by having someone travel with you and paying another airfare).
I have had people offer me cash to tell them what is the "real program" . Depth has a lot to with it.If you go into a camp with 350-400 for a couple of months and you are already lean, you can come away with a small thing or two that might help and make a difference. The only coaching that really works is get fit and attack. When people come and say "you are an idiot you went off the front 8 times and you didn't have a calorie left for the finish". If want to win you can't sit in..ever. Not in training not racing. This thing about Chris/Lance being evil for telling people to train or ride boldly is plain dumb. There are so few people that listen to because there are very few available sources of information. My first lesson in was stay in 4th place and then sprint for the win. After my first few failures I was advised how to stay in forth place.Somebody should start a twitter camp. Give a start place, a time to get to the turnaround and a ride completion time. You will know after 40 miles if you need to be at a camp. Example lots of pros know how long it takes to ride from San Diego to Alpine and back. If you time is not within 15% you don't need a camp you need miles.@50 years between 2 guys of elite level knowledge is very valuable even if it comes from guys you guys think are clowns. Yes the prices are high.