LeMond II

[Race Radio]

Did he?

No, he didn't. Greg had no role in releasing the tape and was not happy when it was released. He sat on it for years, only sharing it with a handful of people.

The funny thing is Stephanie was pretty open about the hospital room. When I first heard about the story it was Stephanie whose name was attached to it. She did not have a problem telling lots of people about it.

 

[Scott SoCal]

Or did he "allow" or "aide" its release? Good question. I think we all know the answer.

Alas, I think enough has been said. Time to move on.

Cool. Maybe you can share the answer (link) with the rest of us.

 

[86TDFWinner]

Did LeMond beat any known dopers? If he did that should be enough for the clinic regulars.

Hmmm, Completely guessing here: Fignon/Kelly/Roche/Delgado//Millar/Indurain(am I missing anyone?)

 

[86TDFWinner]

I'd call this a logic fail. Being stringently anti-doping today can help one's business. Look at how many fans Kimmage, Walsh, Bassons, Millar have today. Tyler and Frankie have their supporters, too. I'm not saying being anti-doping is a huge money maker, I'm just saying it need not hurt one's business. Lemond need not uphold omerta to help his popularity or his sales.

So first you hold him up to an impossible black and white standard 'anti-doping angel' versus 'hypocrit.'

And now you are a mind reader who knows his motives (money)?

As for Landis, IMHO, Landis is a piece of human garbage. His team attempted to blackmail Lemond over Lemond being a survivor of child sexual abuse. IMO Landis was somehow involved, or at least knew what was / had happened. I think its about one of the lowest things you can do to someone. Between that and the Floyd Fairness Fund and all the lies - I have no sympathy for Landis.

I don't feel sorry for Landis at all. He dug his own grave, I'm fine that he now gets to lay in it. I'm not shedding any tears for poor old Landis (who might get very rich out of all of this).

Excellent post.

 

[thehog]

Cool. Maybe you can share the answer (link) with the rest of us.

Mr. LeMond has already shared the link several times over and amongst friends. Sounds like the tape was doing the rounds for mocking & enjoyment purposes.

What more can be said?

 

[86TDFWinner]

And yet LA is still the 7-time TdF winner without that piece of human garbage.

LOL! Maybe in Lance's mind, sure this still resonates to him. But in REALITY(something that has left Wonderboy some time ago), it's not this way, he's no longer a "7 time TDF Winner".

But hey, if it makes Wonderboy feel better to say that, more power to him. One need to only look at the record books, and see the removal of those 7 wins(and all other results) as contradictory proof.

 

[Digger]

Greg was in a one party consent state when he taped it so no law was broken

and please recap why it wasn't used at a later date then - in the trial in question, if it was so legal.....come on now race, you make it sound like he did nothing wrong here - even I said I understood why he did it - but it didn't make it right. And he lied to her....

 

[Digger]

Mr. LeMond has already shared the link several times over and amongst friends. Sounds like the tape was doing the rounds for mocking & enjoyment purposes.

What more can be said?

well obviously the tape made it's way by osmosis from greg's tape recorder on to the internet...poor greg is so unlucky.

 

[Digger]

And there is a pattern - greg going to any lengths to get lance - no matter who he trampled - Stephanie, Floyd...phone calls - the latter a call that authorities established never happened as greg claimed.

And listen, greg is entitled to want to get lance - no question - but he's not entitled to sh** on others along the way - plus, as we've established by all parties, anti lance isn't anti doping.

 

[86TDFWinner]

I feel for Floyd in all this though. Trampled on by Greg to get to lance. And Stephanie being lied to by Greg...not good.

2 things: How was Floyd "trampled on by Greg", please explain.

Also, How did Greg supposedly "lie to Mcillvane", and what was it he lied about?

1 last thing: you are aware that McIllvane PERJURED HERSELF in court as it relates to not lying to Greg, right?

 

[86TDFWinner]

And there is a pattern - greg going to any lengths to get lance - no matter who he trampled - Stephanie, Floyd...phone calls - the latter a call that authorities established never happened as greg claimed.

And listen, greg is entitled to want to get lance - no question - but he's not entitled to sh** on others along the way - plus, as we've established by all parties, anti lance isn't anti doping.

AGAIN, WHAT DID GREG DO TO SUPPOSEDLY "TRAMPLE OVER": LANCE/MciLLVANE AND FLOYD?

Please share with us all...post all your facts stating this.......

 

[thehog]

well obviously the tape made it's way by osmosis from greg's tape recorder on to the internet...poor greg is so unlucky.

Correct. And the subsequent "baseball" call was from a person who perhaps knew she was bring mocked across the Internet and amougst her peers.

She chose her son over the truth. She never should of lied and it's not an excuse but it's a reason.

Same goes for the Floyd phone call. That went from a generalist private call between LeMond & Landis to a public "Landis confesses" statement. How did that happen?

 

[Digger]

Correct. And the subsequent "baseball" call was from a person who perhaps knew she was bring mocked across the Internet and amougst her peers.

She chose her son over the truth. She never should of lied and it's not an excuse but it's a reason.

Same goes for the Floyd phone call. They went from a generalist private call to public "Landis confesses" statment. How did that happen?

Well at least the authorities later established that greg's version never happened - not that many people know this fact.

 

[thehog]

Well at least the authorities later established that greg's version never happened - not that many people know this fact.

Correct, they disbarred his testimony but the damage had been done.

 

[86TDFWinner]

Well at least the authorities later established that greg's version never happened - not that many people know this fact.

When are YOU going to start answering questions Digger and stop avoiding them?

 

[Digger]

2 things: How was Floyd "trampled on by Greg", please explain.

Also, How did Greg supposedly "lie to Mcillvane", and what was it he lied about?

1 last thing: you are aware that McIllvane PERJURED HERSELF in court as it relates to not lying to Greg, right?

greg showed up at the arbitration and gave a version of a call which was later established never happened. And interjected himself into a process which he had nothing to do with - which is fine - but he has kept well away from 99.9% of doping cases.

Greg are you taping this - Greg answered no....that's a lie.


Stephanie's later actions - they make Greg's wrongs ok then...awesome - greg is like the sheriff around town!

 

[Digger]

When are YOU going to start answering questions Digger and stop avoiding them?

temper temper

 

[Scott SoCal]

Mr. LeMond has already shared the link several times over and amongst friends. Sounds like the tape was doing the rounds for mocking & enjoyment purposes.

What more can be said?

Yeah, that's probably it.

What more can be said?

You can show me where Greg is responsible for the tape's availability in the public domain. That's what more you can say. Thanks.

 

[Digger]

Correct, they disbarred his testimony but the damage had been done.

If Floyd hadn't ridden with lance previously, nothing would have happened - the only reason greg wanted Floyd to confess was to get him to talk about lance and USP - again not anti doping - merely anti lance.

 

[86TDFWinner]

greg showed up at the arbitration and gave a version of a call which was later established never happened. And interjected himself into a process which he had nothing to do with - which is fine - but he has kept well away from 99.9% of doping cases.

Greg are you taping this - Greg answered no....that's a lie.


Stephanie's later actions - they make Greg's wrongs ok then...awesome - greg is like the sheriff around town!

LOL! I have no idea what you're talking about in relation to some "phantom phone call" you claim Greg made to Floyd, where is this info posted for all of us to see?

Also, You made no sense in trying to explain McIllvane. She lied FROM THE OUTSET on her/Jokely's involvement in the whole Wonderboy/Trashing LeMond fiasco.

AGAIN, SHE PERJURED HERSELF to back the other side, please tell me you're not this foolish to not comprehend this?

 

[86TDFWinner]

temper temper

LOL! Not at all, seems someone else has the knickers in a twist. Just asking you to answer.

 

[Digger]

Yeah, that's probably it.



You can show me where Greg is responsible for the tape's availability in the public domain. That's what more you can say. Thanks.

I think I speak for Hog here when clearly greg didn't leak the tapes on purpose - he kept them safe....so how did the tapes get from his tape recorder to the internet....case for Matlock

 

[Scott SoCal]

And there is a pattern - greg going to any lengths to get lance - no matter who he trampled - Stephanie, Floyd...phone calls - the latter a call that authorities established never happened as greg claimed.

And listen, greg is entitled to want to get lance - no question - but he's not entitled to sh** on others along the way - plus, as we've established by all parties, anti lance isn't anti doping.

Huh. And yet Stephanie told Greg that she wouldn't lie for Lance... couldn't live with herself.

And let's be clear; Stephanie is the one who lied under oath (allegedly).

 

[86TDFWinner]

You can show me where Greg is responsible for the tape's availability in the public domain. That's what more you can say. Thanks.

He can't say anything more, because it doesn't exist more than likely or he would've been tripping all over himself to post it.

it's just hyperbol......he(Digger) is simply trolling IMO.

 

[86TDFWinner]

Huh. And yet Stephanie told Greg that she wouldn't lie for Lance... couldn't live with herself.

And let's be clear; Stephanie is the one who lied under oath (allegedly).

Let's not bring common sense into the discussion now, ok please.