He is back on the bike for few week probably now since then, but I don't know is he's seriously training or what. Before you had some news from him here and there, this time nothing. I wonder if it's his will, or team orders, or what, because it's very strange. He has quite some fans who would like to know at least something, but it's totally silence for months nowJakub said:
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It has to be health problems ...if clinic problems there would be an announcement and if he were fit then team would ride him even if leaving ..rdiers leave all the time, even SKY
He's training again. The silence is strange, though. Anyway I don't think Sky will resign him but I don't think they will do 'Astana' - there is only one skunk called Vino.pastronef said:
Still out due to his crash in the Volta Valenciana TT prolog back in February
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Do not despair. There is time until Tour begins and yet more until Vuelta. Anything can happen.gazr99 said:
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No, he knows nothing. Wait...he led Giro last year? In what team? Sky? Yeah, you clever guy...HelloDolly said:
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Yep, because Porte DNF'd, as likely as that scenario was he is behind Froome and Landa in the pecking order at Sky, and I dare say Thomas too (according to Sky not myself on that one though).
If Froome and/or Landa want to target the Vuelta this year he won't be given leadership unless either crashes or gets injured. Obviously the Tour is out of the question.
Personally I'd put this year down to recovery, maybe he can get himself back in some sort of form and help Froome at the Tour, if not maybe stage hunt at the Vuelta.
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Yep, because Porte DNF'd, as likely as that scenario was he is behind Froome and Landa in the pecking order at Sky, and I dare say Thomas too (according to Sky not myself on that one though).
If Froome and/or Landa want to target the Vuelta this year he won't be given leadership unless either crashes or gets injured. Obviously the Tour is out of the question.
Personally I'd put this year down to recovery, maybe he can get himself back in some sort of form and help Froome at the Tour, if not maybe stage hunt at the Vuelta.
good thing is finally we have news of him in that CZ report.
let´s see which one he´ll ride
California (May 15-22) (unlikely, it´s just 10 days from now)
Slovenia (June 16-19)
Poland (July 12-18)
San Sebastian July 30
RideLondon July 31
Vuelta Burgos 2 - 6 August
Arctic Race 10 - 14 August
let´s see which one he´ll ride
California (May 15-22) (unlikely, it´s just 10 days from now)
Slovenia (June 16-19)
Poland (July 12-18)
San Sebastian July 30
RideLondon July 31
Vuelta Burgos 2 - 6 August
Arctic Race 10 - 14 August
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I don't see why Tour is out of question at this point.
I realize all of that yet past shows us it's possible hence why I consider HD's reaction exaggerate.Pricey_sky said:
I don't see why Tour is out of question at this point.
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Sorry I meant Tour leadership out of the question. But I hope he can recover in time to get a place in the Tour team.
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Sorry I meant Tour leadership out of the question. But I hope he can recover in time to get a place in the Tour team.
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Edit: König came to Sky from Proconti team, compared to Poels. He managed to have results at Proconti team as only few had if any, quite exceptional. Nobody has a clue what is fully prepared König capable of.
Thomas yeas, but are you sure about Poels? Anyway in form Konig is still miles better GT rider then Poels, so if there is direct confrontation between the two I have no doubts about winner.Brullnux said:
Edit: König came to Sky from Proconti team, compared to Poels. He managed to have results at Proconti team as only few had if any, quite exceptional. Nobody has a clue what is fully prepared König capable of.
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I'm always amazed how some who proved almost nothing are touted here almost as if they were winners and some who actually did something are dismissed any possibility to improve.
P.S. we were talking about GTs, so what has pecking order in classics to do with that when even you say that
Firstly, first year at Sky many many riders had problems to adapt. He wasn't even designed leader for that Giro yeat managed 6th place. You or me know s*** what he is capable of, I think you are little bit too much strict here. If he was like fifth year in WT team leading Grand Tours and having no success I'd say yes. But given circumstances...he managed to finish his every GT in top ten without no help in the mountains. And is great TTist, so if there is GT with lots of TT kilometres...Brullnux said:
I'm always amazed how some who proved almost nothing are touted here almost as if they were winners and some who actually did something are dismissed any possibility to improve.
P.S. we were talking about GTs, so what has pecking order in classics to do with that when even you say that
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I don't think he will ever win a GT, unless there is another 2012 Giro situation on the horizon. He will undoubtedly top 5 a GT in his career, maybe if he is either lucky or extremely good he will podium.
Yes, not everyone adapts to SKY in their first year, but its not like he took some massive step back upon joining SKY. He was 5:00 behind when he became leader, after he had got caught behind the same crash as Contador and lost 2:00 there then lost 1:45 minutes in the TT, which was surprising considering he is normally a very strong good TT, although it was a decent performance. Then he lost 3:20 on the Mortirolo and 2:30 on Finestre, and finished 10:50 down. Maybe he could've finished 4th starting as leader and w/o the crash, but then we need to take out Ryder's first week which had a couple of falls too. He wouldn't have come third. He improved at SKY.
As to him being without a team: Rolland came 4th in the 2014 Giro, just 5 minutes behind Quintana with less of a team than Konig had in 2014, where he came 14:00 behind Nibali.
This is Sky: pecking order matters and it is acquired from everywhere. Who is a better GT rider, Froome or Wiggins? Wiggins was backed. Poels isn't better than Konig, he is worse in Gts. But this is Sky. I think it goes Froome, Thomas and then Poels, also seeing how the year has gone in stage races too.
Konig is a decent rider, but not a winner of GTs. if he does, then well done to him and I am extremely wrong, but I am not holding my breath.
Kokoso said:Firstly, first year at Sky many many riders had problems to adapt. He wasn't even designed leader for that Giro yeat managed 6th place. You or me know s*** what he is capable of, I think you are little bit too much strict here. If he was like fifth year in WT team leading Grand Tours and having no success I'd say yes. But given circumstances...he managed to finish his every GT in top ten without no help in the mountains. And is great TTist, so if there is GT with lots of TT kilometres...Brullnux said:
I'm always amazed how some who proved almost nothing are touted here almost as if they were winners and some who actually did something are dismissed any possibility to improve.
P.S. we were talking about GTs, so what has pecking order in classics to do with that when even you say that
I don't think he will ever win a GT, unless there is another 2012 Giro situation on the horizon. He will undoubtedly top 5 a GT in his career, maybe if he is either lucky or extremely good he will podium.
Yes, not everyone adapts to SKY in their first year, but its not like he took some massive step back upon joining SKY. He was 5:00 behind when he became leader, after he had got caught behind the same crash as Contador and lost 2:00 there then lost 1:45 minutes in the TT, which was surprising considering he is normally a very strong good TT, although it was a decent performance. Then he lost 3:20 on the Mortirolo and 2:30 on Finestre, and finished 10:50 down. Maybe he could've finished 4th starting as leader and w/o the crash, but then we need to take out Ryder's first week which had a couple of falls too. He wouldn't have come third. He improved at SKY.
As to him being without a team: Rolland came 4th in the 2014 Giro, just 5 minutes behind Quintana with less of a team than Konig had in 2014, where he came 14:00 behind Nibali.
This is Sky: pecking order matters and it is acquired from everywhere. Who is a better GT rider, Froome or Wiggins? Wiggins was backed. Poels isn't better than Konig, he is worse in Gts. But this is Sky. I think it goes Froome, Thomas and then Poels, also seeing how the year has gone in stage races too.
Konig is a decent rider, but not a winner of GTs. if he does, then well done to him and I am extremely wrong, but I am not holding my breath.
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Agree with this, if Froome crashes/gets sick they can have Thomas, Poels and Konig go out for stage wins.
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Agree with this, if Froome crashes/gets sick they can have Thomas, Poels and Konig go out for stage wins.
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Koneig had a high GC in a Tour wher with the exception of Nibali had a poor field same with the Giro last year ...take out the top 3 riders the rest of the field were not in the same ball park. Konig can TT and can follow wheels in the mountains most days ...he has shown nothing to make me feel SKY would select him as their leader in GT
Of course if the leader crashed out and maybe a few others who knows ? but that is not being selected as a leader. Poels is a far beeter rider who has come back from a life threatening almost career ending injury and shown what he can do...Poles wants to lead a GT and I am sure SKY would give him the go ahead before Koneig. IN fact they wlil give leadership to at least 5 or 6 riders before Koneig
That is just the way it is ...Koneig wants to lead races he has to leave SKY
Of course if the leader crashed out and maybe a few others who knows ? but that is not being selected as a leader. Poels is a far beeter rider who has come back from a life threatening almost career ending injury and shown what he can do...Poles wants to lead a GT and I am sure SKY would give him the go ahead before Koneig. IN fact they wlil give leadership to at least 5 or 6 riders before Koneig
That is just the way it is ...Koneig wants to lead races he has to leave SKY
Common guys, you know that you can't argue with a "slightly" biased Czech fan Kokoso about Konig not being at the top of the SKY packing order.
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