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No, the official results are just completely wrong. There's a lot of riders missing. For example, 2 Jumbo riders and Andreas Kron finished behind the Riwal riders in the peloton, but are nowhere to be seen in the "official" results. There isn't even a 17th place in the results. Also lots of riders DNF who actually finished the race in the 2nd group. Amateurish stuff from the organization.

View: https://twitter.com/kevinvanmelsen/status/1510292543354908678


View: https://twitter.com/DeGendtThomas/status/1510513221773545473

Limburg results now updated on PCS - Fiorelli showing as DSQ.
 
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Yeah just saw it too, no idea why then.
Just a hypothesis: he punctured in the last 20 km (think I saw a shot of him) but then managed to come back to the group pretty quickly. Perhaps the team car helped him a bit too much.
 
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Four flattish stages in the Circuit de la Sarthe starting today, but that hasn't stopped the riders from making the race hard as a 10-rider group containing Ganna, Plapp, Pedersen, Cosnefroy and Pinot is currently up the road. Only 30 seconds to the peloton with about an hour of racing to go, though. It's being broadcast this year, you can follow the race live here:

If it does come back for a sprint, Cavendish, Viviani, Kooij and Sagan are all there.
 
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This finish reminds me of Nokere Koerse, with a descent in the final kilometre before the road turning into a decently stingy uphill in the final few hundred metres. The only thing that's missing is the cobbles.

Onto the final lap, gap is about 1:20 now (I clocked it) so the winner of the stage and also of the eventual GC should be up front. There are a couple of counterattacks behind but I have a hard time seeing a five-rider group make it to the front...
 
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Cofidis pulling hard behind despite having Zingle up front and nobody who is winning a sprint, gap falling pretty quickly if the GPS is correct. In any case the counterattack has been shut down. Peloton has also been whittled down quite a bit.
 
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Imagine being one of the domestiques who had the task of bringing that group back...
Ganna seems to be in good shape again after getting sick during/after MSR.
 
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Ganna has been riding a lot of races in France in recent times. And he all takes them seriously.

Totally unusual, since the stars in the last twenty years normally only came to France for Roubaix, Dauphine or TdF.
The plan was to ride a lot in France to prepare for Paris-Roubaix and the Tour, get used to the French roads and everything. He was also supposed to ride Paris-Nice until they changed his racing schedule.
 
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13k to go in the Sarthe, bunch sprint incoming after a breakaway featuring Gougeard, ninth on GC, was caught. Gougeard did take 5 seconds from the intermediate sprints which provisionally bumps him up to fifth.
 
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It's that time of the year again, when I take leave of my senses and start obsessively trying to make people care about a race which lasts 3 weeks, but is full of those things that I typically hate about Grand Tours: sprints, short stages, mountains placed too far from the finish, and a Team Time Trial. But as you all know, one of the rules I give about when Team Time Trials are considered acceptable is if the race takes place in a Communist country, so we're a-ok on this occasion, as - yes - it is time for Cúp truyền hình Thành phố Hồ Chí Minh 2022... which for the sake of my sanity as I try to remember which buttons hot-key to which Vietnamese diacritic again, we shall call the HTV Cup.

Now that it's not such an alien world, the format is starting to become more understandable, but also as the pandemic (which is the only reason any of us have heard of this race anyway) is subsiding, a few more international starters are here, including the legendary Igor Frolov, a man who posts 1990s wattages like it's going out of fashion. 23 stages this year, including 5 crits, a prologue, a TTT, 3 mountain stages and more flat and rolling to hilly stages than you can redistribute wealth at.

Surprisingly, there's no Javier Sardá this year, which is a shame as he enlivened the last few editions seeing as he had to gain on the climbs and won overall in 2019 and 2020, coming 2nd in 2021. Cosmonaut Frolov takes his place as the overseas rider on the Vinama-TPHCM team alongside long-time co-leader Nguyễn Trường Tài. Their sister team, HCM-NewGroup, continue to be led by sprinter Lê Nguyệt Minh, but they also have an imported Russian, 23-year-old Konstantin Nekrasov. Lộc Trời have brought in former RusVelo man Roman Maikin to lead them, he has some experience racing in South East Asia from his time with Cambodia Cycling Academy, and was 2nd to Frolov in the 5 Rings of Moscow last season. They've also signed Vietnamese Barbosa, Nguyễn Tấn Hoài, who will be trying to Rik van Looy his way to victory through bonus seconds. Iran's Ali Khademi, a former Tabriz Petrochemical domestique, is the overseas signing for their sister team GNT An Giang.

Defending champion Loïc Désriac, a Frenchman who married a Vietnamese and has made his home out here, has moved to the vacant spot left by Nguyễn Tấn Hoài at DDT, whose sister team Dopagan (unfortunate name) will be led again by 22-year-old escapologist Trần Tuấn Kiệt. The former BikeLife team that Désriac leaves are now called GSB and have a strong team with Nguyễn Hoàng Sang, Vietnam's most successful GC rider overseas in recent years, the likely leader, though Nguyễn Phạm Quốc Khang is good, and they have surprisingly opted to plunder Mongolia for their guest riders, with GSB having Baasankhuu Myagmarsuren as their overseas rider, and sister team Kenda Đồng Nai riding with Bilguunjargal Erdenebat as their overseas rider, with Colombian Jordan Parrá not returning post-Covid. Quan Khu 7 still have the best jerseys in world cycling and they still have baroudeur extraordinaire Huỳnh Thanh Tùng. The other teams are largely small and not especially noteworthy, save for 620 Châu Thới-Vĩnh Long having 22-year-old prospect Võ Thanh An, who is highly rated. And that the Thanh Hóa team appear to have plundered some old Bahrain-Merida kits and stuck their own logo over them.

The race got started with a prologue around Hạ Long Bay, a famous tourist spot in northern Vietnam and a UNESCO World Heritage Site of course, with an out and back along the seafront with stunning views out to the islands in the bay. It didn't take long for Cosmonaut Frolov to launch, as he obliterated the prologue at 51km/h to take the win, although he is still clearly getting the boosters warmed up on the rocketship as he was less than a second ahead of defending champion Loïc Désriac. Nevertheless he takes the first maillot jaune of the race, with Quàng Văn Cường leading the way for home riders, 3 seconds behind.

Stage 2 was a 64km out-and-back-and-then-out-and-back-in-the-other-direction again along the coast near Hạ Long, sadly the two out-and-backs should have been in the opposite order as the first loop was quite hilly but the second mostly flat. Bilguunjargat Erdenebal of Kenda-DN attacked after just 4 minutes of racing and was soon joined by his compatriot Baasankhuu Myagmarsuren in the sister GSB team for a two-man break of the two Mongolians in the race, which kind of felt a bit like old Eastern Bloc times with the Soviets attacking en masse. A lot of counterattacks meant a new break was formed, but Erdenebal was relentless and forced his way into this break too, alongside Võ Thanh An as contenders in the group. However, in an echo of last year when an early mountain stage got annulled thanks to the weather, the stage would ultimately be expunged from the GC thanks to a problem with securing part of the course on the second circuit; the race had to be re-routed and due to confusion with the new route (the finishing line had no barriers at all which is absolutely bonkers) the péloton was sent the wrong way, guaranteeing the win to the breakaway. The organisers made the call to annul time gaps for the sake of fair competition, which is understandable, but allowed the races for the day's prizes (metas volantes, GPM points, stage win) to stand. Erdenebal won from the remains of the breakaway ahead of Võ Thanh An and Ngô Văn Phương.
 
Apr 10, 2019
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It's that time of the year again, when I take leave of my senses and start obsessively trying to make people care about a race which lasts 3 weeks, but is full of those things that I typically hate about Grand Tours: sprints, short stages, mountains placed too far from the finish, and a Team Time Trial. But as you all know, one of the rules I give about when Team Time Trials are considered acceptable is if the race takes place in a Communist country, so we're a-ok on this occasion, as - yes - it is time for Cúp truyền hình Thành phố Hồ Chí Minh 2022... which for the sake of my sanity as I try to remember which buttons hot-key to which Vietnamese diacritic again, we shall call the HTV Cup.

Now that it's not such an alien world, the format is starting to become more understandable, but also as the pandemic (which is the only reason any of us have heard of this race anyway) is subsiding, a few more international starters are here, including the legendary Igor Frolov, a man who posts 1990s wattages like it's going out of fashion. 23 stages this year, including 5 crits, a prologue, a TTT, 3 mountain stages and more flat and rolling to hilly stages than you can redistribute wealth at.

Surprisingly, there's no Javier Sardá this year, which is a shame as he enlivened the last few editions seeing as he had to gain on the climbs and won overall in 2019 and 2020, coming 2nd in 2021. Cosmonaut Frolov takes his place as the overseas rider on the Vinama-TPHCM team alongside long-time co-leader Nguyễn Trường Tài. Their sister team, HCM-NewGroup, continue to be led by sprinter Lê Nguyệt Minh, but they also have an imported Russian, 23-year-old Konstantin Nekrasov. Lộc Trời have brought in former RusVelo man Roman Maikin to lead them, he has some experience racing in South East Asia from his time with Cambodia Cycling Academy, and was 2nd to Frolov in the 5 Rings of Moscow last season. They've also signed Vietnamese Barbosa, Nguyễn Tấn Hoài, who will be trying to Rik van Looy his way to victory through bonus seconds. Iran's Ali Khademi, a former Tabriz Petrochemical domestique, is the overseas signing for their sister team GNT An Giang.

Defending champion Loïc Désriac, a Frenchman who married a Vietnamese and has made his home out here, has moved to the vacant spot left by Nguyễn Tấn Hoài at DDT, whose sister team Dopagan (unfortunate name) will be led again by 22-year-old escapologist Trần Tuấn Kiệt. The former BikeLife team that Désriac leaves are now called GSB and have a strong team with Nguyễn Hoàng Sang, Vietnam's most successful GC rider overseas in recent years, the likely leader, though Nguyễn Phạm Quốc Khang is good, and they have surprisingly opted to plunder Mongolia for their guest riders, with GSB having Baasankhuu Myagmarsuren as their overseas rider, and sister team Kenda Đồng Nai riding with Bilguunjargal Erdenebat as their overseas rider, with Colombian Jordan Parrá not returning post-Covid. Quan Khu 7 still have the best jerseys in world cycling and they still have baroudeur extraordinaire Huỳnh Thanh Tùng. The other teams are largely small and not especially noteworthy, save for 620 Châu Thới-Vĩnh Long having 22-year-old prospect Võ Thanh An, who is highly rated. And that the Thanh Hóa team appear to have plundered some old Bahrain-Merida kits and stuck their own logo over them.

The race got started with a prologue around Hạ Long Bay, a famous tourist spot in northern Vietnam and a UNESCO World Heritage Site of course, with an out and back along the seafront with stunning views out to the islands in the bay. It didn't take long for Cosmonaut Frolov to launch, as he obliterated the prologue at 51km/h to take the win, although he is still clearly getting the boosters warmed up on the rocketship as he was less than a second ahead of defending champion Loïc Désriac. Nevertheless he takes the first maillot jaune of the race, with Quàng Văn Cường leading the way for home riders, 3 seconds behind.

Stage 2 was a 64km out-and-back-and-then-out-and-back-in-the-other-direction again along the coast near Hạ Long, sadly the two out-and-backs should have been in the opposite order as the first loop was quite hilly but the second mostly flat. Bilguunjargat Erdenebal of Kenda-DN attacked after just 4 minutes of racing and was soon joined by his compatriot Baasankhuu Myagmarsuren in the sister GSB team for a two-man break of the two Mongolians in the race, which kind of felt a bit like old Eastern Bloc times with the Soviets attacking en masse. A lot of counterattacks meant a new break was formed, but Erdenebal was relentless and forced his way into this break too, alongside Võ Thanh An as contenders in the group. However, in an echo of last year when an early mountain stage got annulled thanks to the weather, the stage would ultimately be expunged from the GC thanks to a problem with securing part of the course on the second circuit; the race had to be re-routed and due to confusion with the new route (the finishing line had no barriers at all which is absolutely bonkers) the péloton was sent the wrong way, guaranteeing the win to the breakaway. The organisers made the call to annul time gaps for the sake of fair competition, which is understandable, but allowed the races for the day's prizes (metas volantes, GPM points, stage win) to stand. Erdenebal won from the remains of the breakaway ahead of Võ Thanh An and Ngô Văn Phương.

Thanks for the update about the race.
Those Mongolian riders are hard as nails, I've heard stories and even seen video footage of them training on the roads in Mongolia during the winter with -20 to -25 °C.
Do you have a link where I can find the route of the race (it's not exactly the most easy race to follow)?
Frolov is interesting, he pretty much only does low intensity training rides and then pulls some really wild performances out of his hat when he's competing.
Just look at his powerdata from the stage of the 5 Rings of Moscow he won last year. 338W normalized power for 3:47:50 while being 63kg light, no additional comments needed...
 
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