Lesser Known Road Racing for Women Thread

[yaco]

I don't feel , and hey maybe wrong its not unknown but she's not lost in sprints she was expected to win against other riders than Wiebes. It's not like she's losing to other teams sprinters.

One of her problems beside illness, is that she is not getting to enough finals.

 

[Wyndbrook]

At the end of the day, Kool has not won a race. And in 2023, she beat Wiebes on three occasions.

Perhaps she's saving her best for August.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I don't feel , and hey maybe wrong its not unknown but she's not lost in sprints she was expected to win against other riders than Wiebes. It's not like she's losing to other teams sprinters.

She's also lost against Balsamo and Vos this year.

 

[awavey]

She's also lost against Balsamo and Vos this year.

which on paper sounds bad but Vos has beaten Wiebes & Kopecky this year too, its not poor company to be in.

and Balsamo, well she finished 2nd still, so is it that big an issue ? as I say I dont feel shes losing sprints she's expected to win, its just not clicked for her yet this year.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

which on paper sounds bad but Vos has beaten Wiebes & Kopecky this year too, its not poor company to be in.

and Balsamo, well she finished 2nd still, so is it that big an issue ? as I say I dont feel shes losing sprints she's expected to win, its just not clicked for her yet this year.

It's not bad results, but it still proves she isn't on the same level as last year, where she was the second best sprinter in the world.

 

[Izzyeviel]

The problem with Kool at the moment is she climbs like chris froome. She spends too much energy getting back into position & then struggles to keep the wheel of her leadout woman. We saw this at Ride London, absolute perfect leadout from Pfeiffer -it was just too good and she lost her wheel. It will come together.

 

[JR1012]

Kool won 2nd stage. 😉
Didn't saw it live. What happend to Wiebes? Only 8th place in a sprint. Very unusal for her.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Kool won 2nd stage. 😉
Didn't saw it live. What happend to Wiebes? Only 8th place in a sprint. Very unusal for her.

I wasn't watching either, but it seems to have been an easy win, judged from the photo from the finish line.

 

[Izzyeviel]

Told you not to worry

 

[awavey]

Kool won 2nd stage. 😉
Didn't saw it live. What happend to Wiebes? Only 8th place in a sprint. Very unusal for her.

She got shoved,literally, off Marjerus wheel, had to avoid crashing as a result, unclipped, chain had come off, sprint over.

She's called for riders to respect each other more

“It’s getting very dangerous if there’s no respect”

Lorena Wiebes: “I couldn’t sprint today, but I’m especially happy I got to the finish safely. I was very close to a heavy crash after being pushed out of the wheel of my team mate Christine Majerus. There’s too less respect in this peloton. We were in the run up to the sprint & I was following my lead-out Christine Majerus when I got a heavy push from the left, luckily there was space on the right, or I crashed at high speed. My chain was off & I was clicked out. So that was it for riding a sprint today. But with an eye on the Olympics, I’m very lucky I was able to stay upright. It all starts with respect. When I was younger, I had more respect for the top sprinters.”

“We can talk about safety measures by the race organizers all that we want, but it all starts with the riders. The organizers of Baloise Ladies Tour are doing a good job. This is a very nice race, but due to the behavior of the riders, you have so many crashes. That’s why we try to ride in the front as much as we do. We want to stay out of the chaos & crashes. I just hope by speaking up, something changes because this is dangerous for every rider.”

 

[JR1012]

She got shoved,literally, off Marjerus wheel, had to avoid crashing as a result, unclipped, chain had come off, sprint over.

She's called for riders to respect each other more

“It’s getting very dangerous if there’s no respect”

Lorena Wiebes: “I couldn’t sprint today, but I’m especially happy I got to the finish safely. I was very close to a heavy crash after being pushed out of the wheel of my team mate Christine Majerus. There’s too less respect in this peloton. We were in the run up to the sprint & I was following my lead-out Christine Majerus when I got a heavy push from the left, luckily there was space on the right, or I crashed at high speed. My chain was off & I was clicked out. So that was it for riding a sprint today. But with an eye on the Olympics, I’m very lucky I was able to stay upright. It all starts with respect. When I was younger, I had more respect for the top sprinters.”

“We can talk about safety measures by the race organizers all that we want, but it all starts with the riders. The organizers of Baloise Ladies Tour are doing a good job. This is a very nice race, but due to the behavior of the riders, you have so many crashes. That’s why we try to ride in the front as much as we do. We want to stay out of the chaos & crashes. I just hope by speaking up, something changes because this is dangerous for every rider.”

Is she right? Do we need more respect in the woman field? I mean we all know how much shoving and elbows out there is in a bunch sprint.

 

[Izzyeviel]

Is she right? Do we need more respect in the woman field? I mean we all know how much shoving and elbows out there is in a bunch sprint.

https://tiz-cycling.io/video/baloise-ladies-tour-2024-stage-2-full-stage-dutch/

yesterdays stage. Judge for your self. Seemed a text book leadout to me.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

https://tiz-cycling.io/video/baloise-ladies-tour-2024-stage-2-full-stage-dutch/

yesterdays stage. Judge for your self. Seemed a text book leadout to me.

When did the push actually occur?

Wiebes might be right in this case, but while she obviously has a lot of experience by now, she isn't exactly known for not doing stupid things in sprints herself, and she rides for a team that at times have seemed to think it gets to decide the rules for everyone else.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Sadly today's first stage started off with a crash which saw at least Cordon-Ragot being taken to hospital. The race has bene resumed and 23 km remain. A small group with Wiebes, Georgi, Rüegg, De Jong, among others has gone clear, but it's being brought back now.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

De Jong in particular has been quite active, but it looks like it's gonna be a bunch sprint now.

HPH have announced that Cordon-Ragot only has some bruises, so that shouldn't keep her away from the Olympics.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Easy win for Wiebes. I think Kool was second, but she might have been overtaken on the line after she stopped sprinting. Edit: She did finish second by a decent length. Pikulik was third.

With the only 11 km ITT in the race only being 11 km, and without a big time trial name around, I don't know who'll be in the lead before the last stage.

 

[awavey]

When did the push actually occur?

Wiebes might be right in this case, but while she obviously has a lot of experience by now, she isn't exactly known for not doing stupid things in sprints herself, and she rides for a team that at times have seemed to think it gets to decide the rules for everyone else.

There's a bit where the camera switches to the back and there's suddenly a rider in purple out on a cycle path by themselves,but purples a popular colour among teams. Took me ages to work out it was Pfeiffer in the yellow.

But then when they switch back it looks like she's still in the lead group albeit 10 spots much further back then she was.

And then disappears completely in the finish

So I don't know about that one, she was claiming she was shoved, but we don't see it on any of the sprint finish coverage I've seen


I'm surprised of all the riders she's the one complaining about moves like that though.

But Audrey, who I have alot more time for, complained a few years back the new generation of riders have no respect for other riders, so maybe she has a point

 

[Samu Cuenca]

There's a bit where the camera switches to the back and there's suddenly a rider in purple out on a cycle path by themselves,but purples a popular colour among teams. Took me ages to work out it was Pfeiffer in the yellow.

But then when they switch back it looks like she's still in the lead group albeit 10 spots much further back then she was.

And then disappears completely in the finish

So I don't know about that one, she was claiming she was shoved, but we don't see it on any of the sprint finish coverage I've seen


I'm surprised of all the riders she's the one complaining about moves like that though.

But Audrey, who I have alot more time for, complained a few years back the new generation of riders have no respect for other riders, so maybe she has a point

Older riders complaining about younger riders and their lack of respect is a tale as old as time though, but that obviously doesn't mean there aren't some that cross the line more than others.

 

[awavey]

Older riders complaining about younger riders and their lack of respect is a tale as old as time though, but that obviously doesn't mean there aren't some that cross the line more than others.

Very true,though I felt at the time Audrey had a valid point, but does this mean Wiebes at 25 is an older rider now with her French bulldog 😀

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Fleur Moors is currently leading the ITT, and not many more than the top 10 are left to finish. Majerus is the virtual GC leader, but that will probably change.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Norbert Riberolle with the new fastest time. According to the GC standings, she should have started much earlier though, but I guess her time loss on the first stage today was neutralised.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

No. 87 it is, with at least the 88th coming tomorrow.

 

[RedheadDane]

Movistar going 1-2 in Charentaise, with Gutierrez winning ahead of Norsgaard.
Meanwhile WNT did the rare - and frankly useless - "just-out-side-the-podium" podium

1	GUTIÉRREZ Sheyla	Movistar Team	125	75	3:11:45
2	NORSGAARD Emma	Movistar Team	85	55	,,
3	JANSEN Eline	VolkerWessels Women's Pro Cycling Team	70	40	,,
4	DE ZOETE Mylène	CERATIZIT-WNT Pro Cycling Team	60	32	,,
5	JASKULSKA Marta	CERATIZIT-WNT Pro Cycling Team	50	28	,,
6	SCHWEINBERGER Kathrin	CERATIZIT-WNT Pro Cycling Team	40	24	0:10
7	VANPACHTENBEKE Margot	VolkerWessels Women's Pro Cycling Team	35	20	,,
8	SOTO Catalina Anais	Laboral Kutxa - Fundación Euskadi	30	18	,,
9	VAN 'T GELOOF Marjolein	Hess Cycling Team	25	16	,,
10	LE DEUNFF Marie-Morgane	Arkéa - B&B Hotels Women	20	14	,,

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Win no. 89.

 

[yaco]

Win no. 89.

Wiebes won both the prologue and ITT which vindicates my opinion that you did not need both in a six day stage race.