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VanceNichols said:Yes, really the doping doesn't really matter, a lot of cyclist cheat to win races and really it doesn't matter. What matters is that lance has intimidated people, tried to ruin others, and basically do anything to be the best in everything. He is a criminal and a horrible person. The doping is a small part in what makes him a horrible person.
Dominar said:I don't care enough about your argument to research, but I imagine it's safe to say that the cure rate for Stage 4 15 years ago was significantly less than 85%.
VanceNichols said:Yes, really the doping doesn't really matter, a lot of cyclist cheat to win races and really it doesn't matter. What matters is that lance has intimidated people, tried to ruin others, and basically do anything to be the best in everything. He is a criminal and a horrible person. The doping is a small part in what makes him a horrible person.
Why not ?Barrus said:do we really need another thread discussing this?
VanceNichols said:Yes, really the doping doesn't really matter, a lot of cyclist cheat to win races and really it doesn't matter. What matters is that lance has intimidated people, tried to ruin others, and basically do anything to be the best in everything. He is a criminal and a horrible person. The doping is a small part in what makes him a horrible person.
Cobblestoned said:Why not ?
look, Mr. Barrus, this thread has 5 stars.
Should be fixed up there like these 2 other nice masked Armstrong-freds.
Sorry, didn't wanne interrupt the hateflow in here. Normally means that thread is closed soon, if hateflow can't go on untroubled. So, i expected your appearence. Its like chess you know.
Dettol said:Man I don't believe in it but most people do.
Armstrong has a narrative which is I've worked hard to be where I am, I've worked harder than anybody else to be where I am. I deserve to win.
That is the American and Western Dream. Work hard and anything can be yours.
The truth is whether it be a race or life a little bit of luck and some nepotism always helps.
Dettol said:Are you stupid? Read the first sentence: Man I don't believe in it but most people do.
I am not a Lance fanboy. Unlike you I try to understand other people's perspectives on why they are drawn to him and like him. The guy has his merits however symbolic they are.
The thing is when Lance gets found out for doping it will be a sad day for cycling regardless where you stand on the issue.
Fowsto Cope-E said:This is why I can't stand the guy. He completely defames anyone who speaks out against him. Doping is bad; lying about doping is worse; destroying peoples reputations in order to cover up your lies about doping is absolutely horrible.
Polish said:Back in October my daughter's High School Biology Teacher handed out LiveStrong Bands to all the students in her Biology class. The class right before LiveStrong Day.
The class was studying cancer and the teacher, a cancer survivor and cyclist herself - challenged the class to help find cures for cancer later in their lives. My kid wants to study Art/Lit/Hist btw.....
Anyway, there was one kid in the class of 28 who never heard of Lance. Other class members were a bit suprised lol. Although I bet none of them ever heard of Eddy
Yes, Lance has many lessons for many people
Benotti69 said:yep, biggest one is don't believe the myth and turn into a fanboy trying to justify your fanboyism by posting pointless drivel for most of your waking life on forums such as this.
Polish said:Back in October my daughter's High School Biology Teacher handed out LiveStrong Bands to all the students in her Biology class. The class right before LiveStrong Day.
The class was studying cancer and the teacher, a cancer survivor and cyclist herself - challenged the class to help find cures for cancer later in their lives. My kid wants to study Art/Lit/Hist btw.....
Anyway, there was one kid in the class of 28 who never heard of Lance. Other class members were a bit suprised lol. Although I bet none of them ever heard of Eddy
Yes, Lance has many lessons for many people
Benotti69 said:yep, biggest one is don't believe the myth and turn into a fanboy trying to justify your fanboyism by posting pointless drivel for most of your waking life on forums such as this.
Race Radio said:Smart move by Nike. Never too early to indoctrinate a future consumer.
Race Radio said:Smart move by Nike. Never too early to indoctrinate a future consumer.
masking_agent said:I just wish he could have stopped at 5 wins as the world, the haters, Novitsky investigation , and everyone else would have more than likely left him alone. But something drove him to greed hence where we are now. So a lesson would have been to limit it to 4-5 TdF wins and all this turmoil could have been avoided.
Polish said:Why are you even reading it?
Reading the drivel is even worse than writing it lol.
Dude, learn a lesson from Lance and just give it a SSDD ignore.
Benotti69 said:it's like watching a car crash