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if i was LA i would be watching my back now as he appears to be trying to make himself a small fish, which means he is blaming others, and those others wont be happy to take the rap while he gets a slap on the hand...
he better get into Novitsky's office and start dealing sooner rather than later...
he better get into Novitsky's office and start dealing sooner rather than later...
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Polish said:
“I always think that will be judged by your peers. You're the boss, you have the yellow jersey, you're on top of the podium, have millions of dollars... And they have nothing. The most honourable thing, then, is to respect them. If not, you have nothing. I have always done that with my team: give them more than money: respect... We have to be a family. And it's not a criticism of Alberto. It is how I believe things should be done.”
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Polish said:
Oops. ESPN now reporting Lance contradicts his earlier testimony. LOL.
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling/news/story?id=5380225
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Benotti69 said:see the advert above it and beside it...
"The shack and Lance ride like the wind in France"
A foul wind.
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Polish said:
so what if he was "just a rider" he also happened to be the 'rider' who called the shots along with Stapleton, which makes Lance a 'big fish', which is what we are told Novitsky is really after....again whether it is on an official document or not LA had to approve nearly everything the team did and that is 'management', more than 'just a rider'.....
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I was just on the WSJ sport site and was amazed that the blood brothers story is still on the front, directly under the header of tour de france.
Anyway, you can see the changing wind everywhere. Even in the tour itself the journalists are no longer that interested in LA, he no longer needs a body guard and everything to follow him around, the crowds are not that interested in him anymore. His star is really fading very quickly since he is no longer in the running for the tour podium. I think this is also the reason why sites such as ESPN are running stories that are not entirely beneficial for LA. Quickly he will fade in obscurity with the only exception being his lawsuit.
Le roi est morte, vive le roi!
Anyway, you can see the changing wind everywhere. Even in the tour itself the journalists are no longer that interested in LA, he no longer needs a body guard and everything to follow him around, the crowds are not that interested in him anymore. His star is really fading very quickly since he is no longer in the running for the tour podium. I think this is also the reason why sites such as ESPN are running stories that are not entirely beneficial for LA. Quickly he will fade in obscurity with the only exception being his lawsuit.
Le roi est morte, vive le roi!
Benotti69 said:
Let's not get caught up in the smokescreen - the Novitsky quote was about 'leaders'. There is no definition by which Armstrong cannot be called a 'leader' of Tailwind-backed teams at any point between 1999 and 2005.
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David Suro said:
Interesting points, but the sponsor aren't unlikely to be hurt since they're the ones being defended by the investigation-& is even less likely that US Postal is being looked as a doping promoter. The ownership of the team is one matter, the Licensing of the team is another so no matter from what perspective LA is looking at on his "small fish" argument, all the moves, the logistics & the activities were executed around him, or/and involving second and third parties tied to him.
as I wrote before- they'll get LA through Bruyneel....
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red_flanders said:
I think Lance misunderstands things. He thinks by disclaiming ownership at some earlier date, that it absolves him from being involved with alleged sale of equipment to fund a doping program. It doesn't. I presume guys like Wiesel and the other original owners were responsible for or otherwise managing that program. That was Bruyneel and Armstrong.
He wasn't Floyd or some other rider. He was the main focus of the operation from 1999-2005.
Another possible aspect of Lance's defense strategy might be the 'no doping' clause that is a portion of the contract of most (if not all) pro teams. This clause absolves the hiring party from having to pay for the services of a rider found to be doping.
If it comes down to a debate over who is responsible for what in regards to a team performing internal controls and snactioning riders or holding riders out of certain events, then Lance might be able to argue that the responsibility for doping control within the team falls completely on the management and that the riders are not succeptible to any prosecution other than the sanctions of the ICU.
Of course, if it can be shown that Lance was part of the management as well as a rider, then he can't even think about this type of defense.
Has anyone read up on exactly how Novitsky was able to pin the blame on Marion Jones and land her in prison? What was Jones' defense strategy?
If it comes down to a debate over who is responsible for what in regards to a team performing internal controls and snactioning riders or holding riders out of certain events, then Lance might be able to argue that the responsibility for doping control within the team falls completely on the management and that the riders are not succeptible to any prosecution other than the sanctions of the ICU.
Of course, if it can be shown that Lance was part of the management as well as a rider, then he can't even think about this type of defense.
Has anyone read up on exactly how Novitsky was able to pin the blame on Marion Jones and land her in prison? What was Jones' defense strategy?
From Wikipedia regarding Jones:
On January 11, 2008, U.S. District Judge Kenneth Karas sentenced Jones to six months in prison and 200 hours of community service for perjury relating to her using of steroids and for a check-fraud scam. She was also sentenced to two years probation following her prison term. Jones reported to the Federal Medical Center-Carswell prison facility in Fort Worth, Texas on March 7, 2008 and was assigned Federal Bureau of Prisons Register no. 84868-054..She was released from prison on September 5, 2008.
Six months behind bars for perjury. Does anyone know if Lance has testified to being drug-free under oath?
On January 11, 2008, U.S. District Judge Kenneth Karas sentenced Jones to six months in prison and 200 hours of community service for perjury relating to her using of steroids and for a check-fraud scam. She was also sentenced to two years probation following her prison term. Jones reported to the Federal Medical Center-Carswell prison facility in Fort Worth, Texas on March 7, 2008 and was assigned Federal Bureau of Prisons Register no. 84868-054..She was released from prison on September 5, 2008.
Six months behind bars for perjury. Does anyone know if Lance has testified to being drug-free under oath?
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