Liège - Bastogne - Liège : Sunday April 22th 201é

[cineteq]

Afterall unlike Nibali Sanchez has actually won a major 1 day race.

I think you meant both have won a stage race this year, right?

 

[El Pistolero]

All the more stupid of him It's not like Phil stopped winning last year after his big dream came true

That's another thing that makes Nibali a better one day racer then, he actually cares about them.

 

[The Hitch]

Nibali would win all hilly classics if he got the same team as Sanchez had at the Olympics

Maybe you want to compare the team Nibali has to the one Sanchez has to make do with

The same logic follows through that Sanchez would perform a lot better in classics if he had Nibalis team.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

by now 5-0 the hitch

 

[El Pistolero]

Maybe you want to compare the team Nibali has to the one Sanchez has to make do with

The same logic follows through that Sanchez would perform a lot better in classics if he had Nibalis team.

And exactly who did Nibali have as a team? He was the only guy that made the selection and I didn't see Liquigas at the front of the race before the selection either. This was a man versus man fight in the final and Nibali was the second best of the group that made the final selection. He's only 27 years old as well. He was what? 23 at the Olympics?

 

[The Hitch]

All the more stupid of him It's not like Phil stopped winning last year after his big dream came true

That's another thing that makes Nibali a better one day racer then, he actually cares about them.

Yeah i said Nibali is atm a better 1 day racer. God you must be really ****ed that i suggested Gilbert is not the best descender in the world, the way you keep going after the point even though unlike you and cineteq i actually showed some objectivity and called what i saw.

Its funny considering you dont even like Nibali. I fear what you will do when i suggest Gilbert is no longer the best hill rider in the world. Start an argument that Andy Schleck is a better climber than Sanchez?

 

[El Pistolero]

You asked a random stupid question for no reason but to bait me, you know that. I guess you're like Ryo who thinks descending doesn't cost any energy and that you don't need form for it.

It was clear that Phil wasn't in form today, so how can you conlude Nibali is a better descender than him from a non-technical descent like the Roche aux Faucons? You think Phil wasn't tired of following Nibali on the Roche aux Faucons? He had to leave a gap that Vanendert closed down. Have you ever tried descending very fast when being tired?

 

[will10]

Don't know about them, but Madrazo took the wrong route and was DQ'd. My guess is Valverde did the same and if so he's incredibly stupid for not knowing the way.

I'm not sure it was stupidity, didn't they shortcut to Liege when they didn't get back on? The same way as in eg. MSR you take the coast road to San Remo rather than hauling yourself over the Poggio

 

[El Pistolero]

I'm not sure it was stupidity, didn't they shortcut to Liege when they didn't get back on? The same way as in eg. MSR you take the coast road to San Remo rather than hauling yourself over the Poggio

Could also be the case. Bit lame for someone like Valverde to give up like that though, but I guess he knew he didn't have the legs anyway.

 

[canyonball]

Costa just confirmed o his website that he got cut on la redoute and that's why he didn't make the first group after la redoute.

Top 20 on the three races this week. It thought it was a good performance. Only is second time actually racing the ardennes, as last year it was just about clocking miles shortly after his return to Movistar. Unfortunately, next year the dynamics on the team may be a bit different, assuming Valverde will present himself here at full speed.

I was sleeping by the time they hit Cote de La Roche aux Faucons. Great racing from there after. Like some I thought Nibali had it. It was a shame to see him crack, but only made me ore of a supporter. Happy for Iglinsky all of the same.

 

[DominicDecoco]

Some people should really be thinking of taking a break from this forum... Just 5 minutes.. Get some fresh air. It will do wonders, I'm sure..

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Mollema also good with 3 top 10's this week. Thought after last 2 years he was not for the classics (except lombardia maybe). But now...pretty good

 

[El Pistolero]

Mollema also good with 3 top 10's this week. Thought after last 2 years he was not for the classics (except lombardia maybe). But now...pretty good

He was also good in Emilia. Last year he was unlucky at Lombardia. That's usually a race where the guys who came fresh out of the Vuelta perform well in, so he would've probably been top 10 there aswell.

He's a guy for the top 10, but I just can't see him winning a Monument yet(then again I would have said the same about Iglinskiy). I don't really follow him that well, but his sprint isn't very good is it?

 

[will10]

Mollema also good with 3 top 10's this week. Thought after last 2 years he was not for the classics (except lombardia maybe). But now...pretty good

Bit of a surprise for me this week, didn't think he had it for Ardennes, could be the first Dutchman to finish 2nd in Amstel since Boogerd

 

[rxgqgxnyfz]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/iglinskiy-thought-he-was-racing-for-second-in-liege

Katusha racer takes biggest win of his career

Come on...

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

He was also good in Emilia. Last year he was unlucky at Lombardia. That's usually a race where the guys who came fresh out of the Vuelta perform well in, so he would've probably been top 10 there aswell.

He's a guy for the top 10, but I just can't see him winning a Monument yet(then again I would have said the same about Iglinskiy). I don't really follow him that well, but his sprint isn't very good is it?

Huh?? That's exactly one of his strong points. Sprints in mountain stages or after a hard hilly stage. Was even 2nd in a mass sprint in castilla y leon often. There's pletny of videos/results proving that. His weak point is that he often can't follow the very best. Only the 2nd group

 

[Torrrr]

RSNT disappointing once again ... I knew it was too cold for Fränk but with such a line-up you must at least get someone in that front group. What has Bruyneel done to these guys.

Not had time to watch the race yet but just looking at the results, at 23rd and 50th Frank and Andy don't seem to have been major players in the race - who or what are they blaming this time?

 

[El Pistolero]

Huh?? That's exactly one of his strong points. Sprints in mountain stages or after a hard hilly stage. Was even 2nd in a mass sprint in castilla y leon often. There's pletny of videos/results proving that. His weak point is that he often can't follow the very best. Only the 2nd group

I'm not saying he's super bad at it, but I just can't ever see him win a group sprint in a hilly classic and thus he has to anticipate(which lowers his chances of winning a classic). Boogerd also had a decent uphill sprint in him, but was still always beaten to the line by someone(except a certain Lance Armstrong ). But like I said, I don't really follow him that much, so you're probably right. But do you see him winning a group sprint in a hilly classic? I doubt it to be honest.

If you get in the top 10 of a Monument, you must have some ambition to win it some day in my opinion and I don't think he should wait for a sprint.

 

[El Pistolero]

Not had time to watch the race yet but just looking at the results, at 23rd and 50th Frank and Andy don't seem to have been major players in the race - who or what are they blaming this time?

Looking forward to their interviews

 

[mr. tibbs]

No idea what happened to Visconti, but Rojas crashed, Madrazo was DQed for not following the racecourse (think he and Martínez took a shortcut like people do into Sanremo rather than ride the Poggio) and Valverde gave up the ghost after he couldn't get back on again after the mechanical.

Don't know about them, but Madrazo took the wrong route and was DQ'd. My guess is Valverde did the same and if so he's incredibly stupid for not knowing the way.

The race was pretty meh up until 25 to go save for the visual of Madrazo nearly breaking his teeth on the pavement trying to push Valverde up La Redoute after giving him his bike (The Don had a mechanical halfway up the climb), but from that point on it was absolutely great.

What? And spoil that enigmatic smile of his! That would have been catastrophic

I think it's obvious who the day's real hero was.

 

[Swede1]

That was a pretty exciting race I must say. The time gaps must have been messed up. But what a win by Iglinskiy! I was definitely rooting for him when he was chasing nibbles (idk why but ive never been a fan of nibali). Wow Astana had a fantastic week with Gaspa and now Iglinskiy. It looked for a while there that Astana werent going to have a good year but... what a good week.
Now Kreuziger will win the Giro, Brajkovic will win the Tour, and Vino will win 3 stages at the Tour.

 

[nvpacchi]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/iglinskiy-thought-he-was-racing-for-second-in-liege


Come on...

bwahah classic CN

 

[happytramp]

Also I find a new consistent in races. When D. Martin and B.Mollema participate in a race, there is a 90% chance D.Martin will finish exactly 1 place higher.

Also Martin is exactly one place and one point higher than Mollema on the UCI points table.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

I think it's obvious who the day's real hero was.

El gorrion de cazona owning the world.

 

[Steinar]

Great race by Iglinsky... What a way to win! Also a good performance by Nibali and Rolland. But what’s up with Voeckler sabotaging every attempt to chase in the final. Maybe he had some compassion with the men in front since he’s been in that position so often …