Liberty Seguros: 3 Strikes in 1!

[Bala Verde]

Didn't Voet get a lot of his dope for Festina from Portugal and Spain, due to the fact that both countries didn't have any strict laws preventing large (lab)sales of dope related products?

 

[ChrisE]

I wonder if ChrisE will have anything to say about this thread?

Not really. Drugged up Spaniards are not exactly cutting edge news.

 

[Bala Verde]

To add to the Portuguese incidents:

Portuguese junior Daniel Freitas (Silva & Vinha/ADRAP), winner of the junior Tour of Portugal, as well as his team mate Joao Pinto, in a different age category, have been caught for using (a) banned substance(s)...

 

[issoisso]

To add to the Portuguese incidents:

Portuguese junior Daniel Freitas (Silva & Vinha/ADRAP), winner of the junior Tour of Portugal, as well as his team mate Joao Pinto, in a different age category, have been caught for using (a) banned substance(s)...

I think Pinto also won his category. And a masters (you know...old riders, retired pros) rider also tested positive. They all ride for the same club.....whose president is/was Nuno Ribeiro. Yup. one big mafia.

No surprise there. Doping in youth categories is rampant as the recent survey of german youth categories clearly shows.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I think Pinto also won his category. And a masters (you know...old riders, retired pros) rider also tested positive. They all ride for the same club.....whose president is/was Nuno Ribeiro. Yup. one big mafia.

No surprise there. Doping in youth categories is rampant as the recent survey of german youth categories clearly shows.

Ribeiro was President of a Cycling team - now that is crazy!

Where was the report about the German youth category? I didn't see it and would be interested in reading that - thanks.

 

[issoisso]

Ribeiro was President of a Cycling team - now that is crazy!

Where was the report about the German youth category? I didn't see it and would be interested in reading that - thanks.

Can't remember the link, sorry, but the riders were all asked one simple question: do you dope?

Completely anonymous. 6.8% said yes. This, in the country where the stigma of doping is highest and therefore where you can expect the percentage of riders doping to be one of the lowest of any country.

Now think how many more are doping but won't admit to it even anonymously. Surely no small number.

As for the team, it's a small association and it doesn't have pros, just youths and "oldies".

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Can't remember the link, sorry, but the riders were all asked one simple question: do you dope?

Completely anonymous. 6.8% said yes. This, in the country where the stigma of doping is highest and therefore where you can expect the percentage of riders doping to be one of the lowest of any country.

Now think how many more are doping but won't admit to it even anonymously. Surely no small number.

As for the team, it's a small association and it doesn't have pros, just youths and "oldies".

Thanks - the fact that it was from German athletes is what caught my eye because as you rightly point out they have taken a very hard line on anti-doping in Europe.

As for Nuno's team - unfortunatley that does not suprise me.

 

[craig1985]

Ribeiro accuses team doctors - cyclingnews.com

So he claims he did not know he was being administraed EPO-CERA. Pull the next one.