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maxmartin said:
can this really happen? i thought JB and AC are not on good terms

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/schlecks-to-riis-contador-to-bruyneel

I saw this a few days ago on La Gazetta and didn't/don't place much faith in it.
How/why the Schlecks going to Saxo helps out Riis is unclear. Is Riis who clearly needs UCI points NOW banking on possible UCI points in the future? After all between the both of them the Schlecks have 4 points.
 
Captain Sensible said:
Alberto will still win races no matter who he rides for :D, as for Frandy this would be the last chance for them as if they dont win back with Bjarne will they ever ?

That's not what it is about. Bjarne and Alberto is the perfect combination while what Hog did to Alberto should never be forgiven.

Parrulo said:
which had nothing to do with crashes on the first week and winning the giro by 7 minutes ofc :rolleyes:

Lol.

TechnicalDescent said:
Those were exceptional circumstances and I think Contador is able to look past that. He knows he will be the main guy this time. His personal relationship with Bruyneel has remained good and they both have the same tactical approach to cycling. They will make phenominal team that will have the rest of the peloton terrified.

Alberto will never forgive JB.

TechnicalDescent said:
No his form suffered at the tour. The fact that he wasted all that energy winning the Giro by 7 minutes was part of the problem. With Bruyneel he will be getting better advice on how to get the best out of him.

Yeah Hog would have adviced him not to ride the Giro. :rolleyes:
 
LaFlorecita said:
That's not what it is about. Bjarne and Alberto is the perfect combination while what Hog did to Alberto should never be forgiven.:

Bjarne and Contador arent a perfect combination.

Bjarne and the Schlecks are though, and so is Contador and Johan.

Everything is mixed up. Contador and Schlecks should swap teams.
 
Ruby United said:
Bjarne and Contador arent a perfect combination.

Bjarne and the Schlecks are though, and so is Contador and Johan.

Everything is mixed up. Contador and Schlecks should swap teams.

Yes they are. Bjarne loves working with Alberto, according to himself and his son Thomas. And Bjarne did what Johan failed to do: he figured Alberto out.

Alberto never opened up to Johan, was always closed off. Bjarne broke through the barrier after a few weeks already.
 
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xmoonx said:
I saw this a few days ago on La Gazetta and didn't/don't place much faith in it.
How/why the Schlecks going to Saxo helps out Riis is unclear. Is Riis who clearly needs UCI points NOW banking on possible UCI points in the future? After all between the both of them the Schlecks have 4 points.

The Schlecks have plenty more than 4 points... remember that the new ranking system the UCI uses to determine who's in the worldtour is based on the previous TWO seasons. That means that even if Frank and Andy both did absolutely nothing the rest of the season, they'd have the points from 2nd and 3rd in the 2011 Tour helping them, as well as Frank's classics placings, etc. And also, the WorldTour ranking (which is what I'm assuming you're looking at) isn't the ranking used to determine who's in the WorldTour.

Basically, getting the Schlecks would assure Riis of ProTeam status for next year. Plain and simple.
 
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royalpig180 said:
The Schlecks have plenty more than 4 points... remember that the new ranking system the UCI uses to determine who's in the worldtour is based on the previous TWO seasons. That means that even if Frank and Andy both did absolutely nothing the rest of the season, they'd have the points from 2nd and 3rd in the 2011 Tour helping them, as well as Frank's classics placings, etc. And also, the WorldTour ranking (which is what I'm assuming you're looking at) isn't the ranking used to determine who's in the WorldTour.

Basically, getting the Schlecks would assure Riis of ProTeam status for next year. Plain and simple.

I didn't know that it's based on TWO seasons. Thanks for clarifying that:)
 
Ruby United said:
Bjarne and Contador arent a perfect combination.

Bjarne and the Schlecks are though, and so is Contador and Johan.

Everything is mixed up. Contador and Schlecks should swap teams.

Is this the same Bjarne that said that Andy's mental toughness and work ethic pales in comparison to Contador's?

I think the perfect pearing are the Schleck's with Kim Andersen. All parties are happy. The Schleck's get to continue doing exactly whatever they desire without a demanding personality in their ear questioning their motivation and dedication. This is perfect for what the Schleck's actually want but not necessarily ideal for Andy's growth as a professional.
 
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So are these rumors about contador going back to bruyneel actually somewhat true? It said the discussions are “at a very advanced stage...”
 
Mar 10, 2009
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Froome19 said:
Dont know if this has already been posted but:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/whats-eating-andreas-kloden

Very nice interview and it will hopefully take this thread on a tangent which will continue on for ever and ever:rolleyes:

How is that an interview? More of an outsiders view based on 3rd parties, I'd say a defamation of character or back stabbing piece. The guy's alive after all, if he won't talk then there is not much you can write and be factual, story belongs over on the tabloids not a cycling racing site.
 
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Agree it is more like an insult to Kloden. He is from east Germany, so he is only in love with Money, btw Cav concur with it. What a piece of garbage article!
ElChingon said:
How is that an interview? More of an outsiders view based on 3rd parties, I'd say a defamation of character or back stabbing piece. The guy's alive after all, if he won't talk then there is not much you can write and be factual, story belongs over on the tabloids not a cycling racing site.
 
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royalpig180 said:
The Schlecks have plenty more than 4 points... remember that the new ranking system the UCI uses to determine who's in the worldtour is based on the previous TWO seasons. That means that even if Frank and Andy both did absolutely nothing the rest of the season, they'd have the points from 2nd and 3rd in the 2011 Tour helping them, as well as Frank's classics placings, etc. And also, the WorldTour ranking (which is what I'm assuming you're looking at) isn't the ranking used to determine who's in the WorldTour.

Basically, getting the Schlecks would assure Riis of ProTeam status for next year. Plain and simple.


Do you have this other ranking?
 
What is Bruyneel thinking by leaving Horner off the TdF preliminary roster? He could have the powerhouse team of Fugslang, Kloden, Horner, and both Schlecks riding for whichever Schleck is strongest. There are a number of guys included that probably won't be nearly as strong as Horner. Bizarre.

Here's the list:
Fabian Cancellara
Jakob Fuglsang
Tony Gallopin
Linus Gerdemann
Markel Irizar
Andreas Klöden
Maxime Monfort
Yaroslav Popovych
Gregory Rast
Hayden Roulston
Andy Schleck
Fränk Schleck
Jens Voigt
Haimar Zubeldia

Horner is probably wishing he'd done like Leipheimer and found a different team this season.
 
patrick767 said:
What is Bruyneel thinking by leaving Horner off the TdF preliminary roster? He could have the powerhouse team of Fugslang, Kloden, Horner, and both Schlecks riding for whichever Schleck is strongest. There are a number of guys included that probably won't be nearly as strong as Horner. Bizarre.

Here's the list:
Fabian Cancellara
Jakob Fuglsang
Tony Gallopin
Linus Gerdemann
Markel Irizar
Andreas Klöden
Maxime Monfort
Yaroslav Popovych
Gregory Rast
Hayden Roulston
Andy Schleck
Fränk Schleck

Jens Voigt
Haimar Zubeldia


Horner is probably wishing he'd done like Leipheimer and found a different team this season.

If I had to choose the final squad, the bolded ones would be my choice.