Lidl-Trek (no longer Radioshack-Leopard Trek)

[Anonymous]

You didn't like the riders, the jersey, thought they didn't meet expectations ... that's fine. You didn't like their website? Look at your own pathetic one, and you're supposed to be some sort of artist/webdesigner if I understand correctly (talking to no one in specific). ( ).

But what I personally believe to be correct is that the team was completely styled through, every little detail that remotely had something to do with the team fit into the image that they wanted to create of themselves. I think if one disregarded the controversy of its startup and the riders and DS's one hates, one would have to objectively agree that they succeeded in creating a good image for the team. Of course that is until they fired Nygaard and traded half of their "best friends" for even bester friends. But that's not something this design agency could control, so I say job well done design agency, you deserve this award and may this land you many more contracts.

on the first point, if you are talking about me, then have the balls to say it instead of being a sarcy **** and just dropping hints.. on that, im not trying to win any design or style awards. Its designed to be functional and easy to navigate which it is. Frankly you opinion isnt worth tuppence anyway, nearly a million page views in a year tells me all i need to know, although im always happy to take on sensible suggestions and tips.

but if you are spoiling for a fight, feel free.. off to the pub now but im sure later on with a few beers inside me I will be more than willing..

As for the article. most of it is poppycock and a lot of it doesnt even make sense. The award is worth nothing, is relatively pointless. Crikey. Raw Nerve?

 

[LaFlorecita]

on the first point, if you are talking about me, then have the balls to say it instead of being a sarcy **** and just dropping hints.. on that, im not trying to win any design or style awards. Its designed to be functional and easy to navigate which it is. Frankly you opinion isnt worth tuppence anyway, nearly a million page views in a year tells me all i need to know, although im always happy to take on sensible suggestions and tips.

but if you are spoiling for a fight, feel free.. off to the pub now but im sure later on with a few beers inside me I will be more than willing..

As for the article. most of it is poppycock and a lot of it doesnt even make sense. The award is worth nothing, is relatively pointless. Crikey. Raw Nerve?

I actually like your site. (that's probably just because of the dog, but still)

 

[taiwan]

@Christian: it says "Stylish, masculine universe".

"Stylish, masculine universe"

That is all.

 

[theyoungest]

You didn't like the riders, the jersey, thought they didn't meet expectations ... that's fine. You didn't like their website? Look at your own pathetic one, and you're supposed to be some sort of artist/webdesigner if I understand correctly (talking to no one in specific). ( ).

But what I personally believe to be correct is that the team was completely styled through, every little detail that remotely had something to do with the team fit into the image that they wanted to create of themselves. I think if one disregarded the controversy of its startup and the riders and DS's one hates, one would have to objectively agree that they succeeded in creating a good image for the team. Of course that is until they fired Nygaard and traded half of their "best friends" for even bester friends. But that's not something this design agency could control, so I say job well done design agency, you deserve this award and may this land you many more contracts.

The point is, they get a prize for this so-called "new" approach, in the so-called "conservative" world of cycling, when in fact they aren't the first team with a stylized approach. At all. And it's not even a recognisable style. The only thing I know they stand for is scarves and d..chebaggery.

Now tell me, what team do you think of when you see argyle? That's what I call recognisable.

 

[Anonymous]

something worth bearing in mind about this meaningless award.

Its awarded by the ADC, a french design agency association.. design agencies pay to be members of said association.. so far 29 french designers are registered with this "association" including Minale, leopard treks designers..

guess how many got awards this year...

go on.. guess..

its a made up award for marketing..

more info
http://www.adc-asso.com/adc/index.html
and yes, their websites 100% flash so if you dont have flash.. tough.. thats design for ya.

 

[cleverhans]

Found that stylish, masculine part...

 

[Christian]

on the first point, if you are talking about me, then have the balls to say it instead of being a sarcy **** and just dropping hints..

You may have missed the part where I said that this was directed at no one in particular ... any resemblance to forum members is purely coincidental! Having said that ... raw nerve?

on that, im not trying to win any design or style awards.

Well maybe you should!

Frankly you opinion isnt worth tuppence anyway

Never pretended that it was ... raw nerve?!

but if you are spoiling for a fight, feel free.. off to the pub now but im sure later on with a few beers inside me I will be more than willing..

Lol is that your regular thursday night? Raw nerve(s)?

The award is worth nothing, is relatively pointless. Crikey. Raw Nerve?

Nope, just trying to congratulate this company on their good job!

@Christian: it says "Stylish, masculine universe".

That is all.

I thought it was pretty stylish ... scarves are debateable but to their credit they did not reappear for the remainder of the season. Some of the teams riders might not be known for their masculinity and certain scolars have suggested they might have two sets of genitilia. But I guess it all depends on what your definition of masculinity is. Take Fabian's spring campain for example - that was pretty frickin' masculine!

The point is, they get a prize for this so-called "new" approach, in the so-called "conservative" world of cycling, when in fact they aren't the first team with a stylized approach. At all. And it's not even a recognisable style. The only thing I know they stand for is scarves and d..chebaggery.

Yes I see what you mean, they were not the first to do this. Having said that, every new team on the block promotes their revolutionary approach to the sport. IMO the most innovative was Cervélo TestTeam, and others have followed in their footsteps, most recently Project 1t4i. You say their brand wasn't recognizable - I think it was though. The design was very simple, two colours (or maybe even only one, never know whether black and white count as colours), a circle and a line, that's all it was, and that's all you ever saw.

Now tell me, what team do you think of when you see argyle? That's what I call recognisable.

Now, to be fair - I believe argyle or at least the lozenge is the logo for the brand Garmin. By the same standard you could ask what team do you think of when you see a cloverleaf. Of course it's recognisable but not (only) because of the cycling team

 

[palmerq]

mr christian and herr dimspace/teamskyfans please do not continue your petty personal argument on the forum or the moderators will get you.

 

[Anonymous]

mr christian and herr dimspace/teamskyfans please do not continue your petty personal argument on the forum or the moderators will get you.

tell him.. hes the one that started with the personal comments.. a bunch of people make a joke, and he decides the best form of defence is attack and start critisising someone else work. Not just on this thread. the guy has a chip on his shoulder the size of a small african nation.

im perfectly happy (and fully expecting following this comment) to take a 24 hour ban for calling him out as a sh.t stirring ****..

see you on saturday.

in the meantime

 

[Ripper]

I'm holding on for the LEoPARD manbag when it comes out

Good one!

On another note - they won an 'award' ... really? As one other poster noted at one point, if riding behind one of them, their kit makes it look like you looking at a cat's b*m-hole.

 

[just some guy]

RaNT doing the trash talking again

Fabo having a go now - http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cancellara-this-season-shows-that-im-human

His new manager Bruyneel’s chief duty will be guiding the Schleck brothers at the Tour, but it will also be the first time the Belgian has focused on the Classics too.

“The other challenge is with me in the Classics – a challenge he’s never had before. He’s had a few riders, but they were always mid-field and they were happy if they won a pre-classic or had a good result and were satisfied by that, but now they have a leader and it’s like full gas.”

While somewhat true - re focus - always mid field , George says Hello

 

[taiwan]

At the Worlds this year I prepared more for the road race than the time trial, and I saw the difference.

See also MSR. I think he could start contending more sprints after hard races, and benefit. If he improves on that front, there aren't too many chinks in his armour: only longer climbs. Also he may be less closely marked in 2012 because of Gilberts's prominence in all races. I cautiously predict a return to form for Cancellara.

 

[Ferminal]

“The other challenge is with me in the Classics – a challenge he’s never had before. He’s had a few riders, but they were always mid-field and they were happy if they won a pre-classic or had a good result and were satisfied by that, but now they have a leader and it’s like full gas.”

What about George?

 

[theyoungest]

Now, to be fair - I believe argyle or at least the lozenge is the logo for the brand Garmin. By the same standard you could ask what team do you think of when you see a cloverleaf. Of course it's recognisable but not (only) because of the cycling team

No. Argyle is only the logo of the cycling team, not of the brand Garmin. Vaughters deliberately chose this so the team would be recognisable no matter what the sponsor.

 

[Christian]

No. Argyle is only the logo of the cycling team, not of the brand Garmin. Vaughters deliberately chose this so the team would be recognisable no matter what the sponsor.

I was thinking of this

But yeah I think you're right he already had argyle when it was called Slipstream

 

[roundabout]

What about George?

I think he is half wrong as I can't recall any podiums in the major spring classics for Bruyneels teams since Hoste in, uh, 2007?

 

[AussieGoddess]

I just cant believe that anyone would think FC's season wasnt that successful

No - he didnt win a big one ....

but he was
- 2nd at MSR,
- 2nd at PR,
- 3rd at RVV,
- 3rd at WC TT and
- 4th at WC RR
- plus winning E3

Thats not a bad season by anyone's measure.

 

[taiwan]

What about George?

Vladimir Gusev? Lief Hoste?

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

RaNT doing the trash talking again

Fabo having a go now - http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cancellara-this-season-shows-that-im-human



While somewhat true - re focus - always mid field , George says Hello

Nothing to do with the team, IMO. That's just who he is.

I just cant believe that anyone would think FC's season wasnt that successful

No - he didnt win a big one ....

but he was
- 2nd at MSR,
- 2nd at PR,
- 3rd at RVV,
- 3rd at WC TT and
- 4th at WC RR
- plus winning E3

Thats not a bad season by anyone's measure.

Depends on your POV. It was pretty damn bad for a rider of his caliber, IMO. If you're that good you are supposed to win big races.

 

[just some guy]

Nothing to do with the team, IMO. That's just who he is.





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More thinking along the lines of Horner and Klodi re Frandy

 

[Ripper]

I just cant believe that anyone would think FC's season wasnt that successful

No - he didnt win a big one ....

but he was
- 2nd at MSR,
- 2nd at PR,
- 3rd at RVV,
- 3rd at WC TT and
- 4th at WC RR
- plus winning E3

Thats not a bad season by anyone's measure.

FC would think his season is crap if he does not meet any of his objectives. So ... he did not win MSR, PR, the RVV, or the WC TT. His team did not win the TdF. So his season was crap. He did not want to get on the podium, he wanted to win. And he had won before, so it is hard to do worse and make it look great.

 

[Richeypen]

FC would think his season is crap if he does not meet any of his objectives. So ... he did not win MSR, PR, the RVV, or the WC TT. His team did not win the TdF. So his season was crap. He did not want to get on the podium, he wanted to win. And he had won before, so it is hard to do worse and make it look great.

Exactly, Success is all relative. What would be classed as a great season for pretty much everyone else in the peleton is a failure for Canc. Simialry 99% of the peleton would consider 3rd at LBL and 2nd at le Tour a success. Its all relative.

 

[Ferminal]

I just cant believe that anyone would think FC's season wasnt that successful

No - he didnt win a big one ....

but he was
- 2nd at MSR,
- 2nd at PR,
- 3rd at RVV,
- 3rd at WC TT and
- 4th at WC RR
- plus winning E3

Thats not a bad season by anyone's measure.

I think it's a decent season, but it's still a come down from absolutely destroying the two cobbled monuments in 2010 (was also a better TTer).

 

[Parrulo]

I just cant believe that anyone would think FC's season wasnt that successful

No - he didnt win a big one ....

but he was
- 2nd at MSR,
- 2nd at PR,
- 3rd at RVV,
- 3rd at WC TT and
- 4th at WC RR
- plus winning E3

Thats not a bad season by anyone's measure.

canc has reached a point where much like boonen, not winning any of the first 3 monuments ia already considered a failure of a season. remember boonen's horrible 2010 season with second in M-SR, 2nd on the ronde and 5th in roubaix( because he decided to actually try to chase canc on his own while every1 else sucked his wheel big time for 30k otherwise he would have been 2nd there as well)

 

[El Pistolero]

canc has reached a point where much like boonen, not winning any of the first 3 monuments ia already considered a failure of a season. remember boonen's horrible 2010 season with second in M-SR, 2nd on the ronde and 5th in roubaix( because he decided to actually try to chase canc on his own while every1 else sucked his wheel big time for 30k otherwise he would have been 2nd there as well)

He still lost his WC time trial title fair and square against Tony Martin.

And then he's coming with these stupid excuses that he was focusing on the road race instead... Sometimes I think there's a brain disease in Leotard. Focusing on the road race instead of the time trial despite every pro cyclist knowing that it was going to end in a bunch sprint