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[cyclopeon]

a break from racing

So now Andy is going to take a break from racing?

How will we know?!

 

[Martin318is]

You're right. I should stop taking airstream's bait.

As to bringing Alberto up randomly in discussions that have got nothing to do with him, check out this pm airstream sent me. (One of the many):

"Okay, probably we don't understand one another et all. Decode what i don't get"

Titled "cheat Contador".



I should just put him back on ignore, his trolling is making me sick.

Also airstream, please stop spamming my inbox with pms.

You are well within your rights to report that sort of thing to the moderators. They should deal with him for you.

 

[Martin318is]

3...2...1... Frank's flat with 80km to go as an excuse.

Samu's mechanical makes that a little tricky to get away with...

 

[Angliru]

Hm, has anyone watched the race on Eurosport? Andy distinctly said that performing well in the Ardennes initially hadn't been planned. Everything is under control. We will be flying in July. Fasten your seat belts.

After Fleche Wallone didn't he state to the media that he planned on being a factor in LBL?

 

[Angliru]

Report from RSNT:
-snip-
“I had fantastic legs at the start,” said Andy Schleck. “But it just didn’t go as planned. There were crashes of course, but we can’t always be blaming the weather. We have to start dealing with the situations better that develop during the race since it’s the same for everyone. I can’t say this has been a bed of roses; it has not been a good year for us. We have not been lazy, everyone has worked hard. But we cannot blame anyone else. We can only blame ourselves.”
-snip-

Good to see him finally taking responsibility and not making excuses.

 

[airstream]

After Fleche Wallone didn't he state to the media that he planned on being a factor in LBL?

things are not always going as someone plans. however what's the difference if part of the forum acts like Andy owes them something personally..

 

[theyoungest]

things are not always going as someone plans. however what's the difference if part of the forum acts like Andy owes them something personally..

Part of the forum thinks Andy Schleck is a professional sportsman who can and should do better than he does now. Especially in a race in which he rode the final in the last 5 (!) years.

 

[Angliru]

things are not always going as someone plans. however what's the difference if part of the forum acts like Andy owes them something personally..

My point was that in your post you state that doing well in the Ardennes was not their goal and we've seen a Velonews/Velo article to the contrary. Who are we to believe them or you?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Well you have to admit this is the typical Spring result(s) from a Joe-Han managed team. Yes, a highlight or two but nothing dramatic (winning a Classic), you all know its le Tour or nothing, everything else is just training or pack filler for them. Can't say I'm all to surprised by their lack of results, and wouldn't surprise me if they are pulling the Schleckchut on purpose.

what kid of 8 is behind this account?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

So now Andy is going to take a break from racing?

How will we know?!

he has already been taking a break from cycling for a few years

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

After Fleche Wallone didn't he state to the media that he planned on being a factor in LBL?

yes, appearantly a non-factor. he succeeded

 

[LaFlorecita]

That was a PM and was supposed to be private. Whats the point of PMs if other posters can just display them at will in public for all to see. Infact I think the mods should have a word with La Florecita for putting it out in the public. She is just trying to turn people against airstream. She knows what she is doing. Thats wrong.

Anyway I am taking a long break from this forum. I know the mods do their best and at times their hands are full but there is too much needle in it at the moment for my liking.

Seriously what is your problem with me? What have I ever done to you to deserve this kind of treatment? If I'm really bothering you just put me on ignore but stop hating on me. Everything I post is wrong in your eyes. Hell, I'm not even allowed to be a fan of the rider I want to be a fan of.

Also, about PMs being private, of course that's true, but as airstream sends me the same things in PMs as he posts I don't think that's a big problem.

 

[Fetisoff]

Crap, I better re-write my movie script, I thought it was going to be a comedy, but from the looks of it it is gonna be a drama

 

[LaFlorecita]

Crap, I better re-write my movie script, I thought it was going to be a comedy, but from the looks of it it is gonna be a drama

Is gooner part of the script? I thought it was about me and airstream.

 

[Fetisoff]

Is gooner part of the script? I thought it was about me and airstream.

It is, but we need secondary characters, you know. If gooner's taking a break from the forum, I will take him out of my script, and put Ryo instead. I think I will have Hector Luis Bustamante playing him too.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

TAke it to the Cafe, folks. You are wandering off topic.

Susan

 

[movingtarget]

But Wiggins, Menchov and Evans can ride a constant hard pace, so they don't really need to answer all the attacks, they just need to ride they own tempo, and no one will go too far away.

It depends how well Schleck is going but he has to be more aggressive and take more risks. He has nothing to lose considering the TT situation. All three of them can have a bad day in the mountains. Let's face it, apart from the Galibier attack the Schlecks did not really shake up Evans too much in the 2011 Tour. They just made it easier for him. Tempo riding in the mountains won't be enough to win the Tour for Wiggins, Menchov or Evans.

 

[airstream]

My point was that in your post you state that doing well in the Ardennes was not their goal and we've seen a Velonews/Velo article to the contrary. Who are we to believe them or you?

Not me, that was Eurosport. We don't have to believe in any of them and should look into it as food for thought. It is usual mental game and such statements never demand any consistency. On the one hand he reminded he was there and the opponents should look up to him, on the other hand, he tried to take the pressure off the team.

 

[Angliru]

Not me, that was Eurosport. We don't have to believe in any of them and should look into it as food for thought. It is usual mental game and such statements never demand any consistency. On the one hand he reminded he was there and the opponents should look up to him, on the other hand, he tried to take the pressure off the team.

Was Eurosport quoting them as saying that the Ardennes wasn't important and thus they didn't have high expectations for their own performance or was it an analysis by a Eurosport writer/commentator?

 

[airstream]

Was Eurosport quoting them as saying that the Ardennes wasn't important and thus they didn't have high expectations for their own performance or was it an analysis by a Eurosport writer/commentator?

That was the interview recorded just before the start. Andy told only about himself.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Jens Voigt ‏ @thejensie Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Hi everybody, first things first. Yes we where not good enough at the classics, no excuses, we where just not good enough!!!

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Everything was well prepared, bikes and equipment, tactics, food and all whats going on around the races...

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And of course this critic absolutly includes myself, me too i should have been better, stronger and more ready!!

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Wish i would know why exactly it turned out to be not our spring for the team and for myself?! So again- no cheap excuse- my fault...

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Jens Voigt ‏ @thejensie Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
And now its all up to ourselfs to kick back and turn things around. And we will!! So lets talk again in a month time, ok?!

 

[DominicDecoco]

Hehe, saw that as well. Jens being honest as usual.

 

[gustienordic]

It depends how well Schleck is going but he has to be more aggressive and take more risks. He has nothing to lose considering the TT situation. All three of them can have a bad day in the mountains. Let's face it, apart from the Galibier attack the Schlecks did not really shake up Evans too much in the 2011 Tour. They just made it easier for him. Tempo riding in the mountains won't be enough to win the Tour for Wiggins, Menchov or Evans.

There is no chance Schleck will get enough time in unless Sanchez decides to help him and be the super domestique he was for AC last year. There is 0 chance the peloton will let both the Schlecks attack, and Evans can cover attacks, and Menchov & Wiggins are both good at riding back to attacks.

 

[Marco Pantani]

There is no chance Schleck will get enough time in unless Sanchez decides to help him and be the super domestique he was for AC last year. There is 0 chance the peloton will let both the Schlecks attack, and Evans can cover attacks, and Menchov & Wiggins are both good at riding back to attacks.

It depends on Andy. Arriving in the shape he had 2010, they'll only see his backwheel. Help from Sanchez??? No way, Samu will hold onto Andys wheel in the mountains.

Menchov wasn't with the best neither in the Giro, nor the Vuelta. Top 10 is possible, but the podium is out of reach imo. Wiggins might look the favourite at the moment, but there is still something, he has to prove. Something Evans already did, as Andy too.