McClown about CCN

[Dear Wiggo]

How you took that out of what I said I can't really work out. The UCI is a self serving closed jobs for the boys network. I'm aware they aren't British and never made out that they are!

Your meaning was clear, and I agree. "Old boys' club" through and through, all around the world.

 

[AcademyCC]

"most of the people who were calling for my resignation had nothing to do with cycling" that quote from McQuaid infuriates me.

 

[Café Racer]

Fans are very much a part of cycling

Pat forgets that the fans are an integral part of cycling and I see Change Cycling Now as representing the fans interest as well as the riders, organisers and sponsors.

 

[thehog]

It's astonishing that someone who has lost any sort of credibility like McQuaid is managing to maintain his position. Moreover that he isn't looking for some sort of exit strategy to walk away from the mess. Given the almost mortal blow the protected Wonderboy has done to the sport under his and Hein's watch its amazing they seem to want to wait till the storm blows out. He reminds so much of Blatter: out of touch, immune to criticism, arrogant in his own power and dismissive of the fans

Well done Jimmy. Well said.

 

[Tinman]

After a week where we saw unbelievable stupidity with the Katusha announcement, then Alberto's amicable settlement (check the CAS language used, not by accident...), we now have Pat deciding to publicly take on CCN and rubbish an initiative which few people have heard of, let alone who is in it and what their positions are. Thanks Pat for the additional media coverage.

Not sure what PR advice he got, or whether he ignored it, but all he has done, as he did by taking on Kimmage in originally announcing legal proceedings, is to give credence to the CCN cause and make a yet bigger turkey of himself in the media.

Good on ya Pat, little need for fans to try to remove you, you're doing a great job furthering the cause yourself.

 

[Tom375]

Not sure what PR advice he got, or whether he ignored it,

Pat gets all his PR advice from his Puppet master Hein.
There's no way that a PR company etc. could be being paid to make the amount of balls ups he does - unless it's a PR company run by Hein.

 

[thehog]

McQuackary:

 

[Tom375]

McQuackary:

Definition of shifty!

 

[D-Queued]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mcquaid-change-cycling-now-not-a-part-of-cycling

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"most of the people who were calling for my resignation had nothing to do with cycling

Depends on your perspective, I guess. Well, at least he recognizes that it was not just one or two asking for his resignation.
Goodness me...

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Of all things, that is absurd. Nobody outside of cycling gives a damn.

Unfortunately.

...(Loved the entire post)


We will skip by Greg winning 2 Tours and a Worlds in the last 25 years - but for a man who has done "nothing" in cycling you sure did want to sue him, Right.

...

Also in the last 25 years (and not discussing aero bars and helmets, which most everyone readily acknowledges):

...led the Ti and Carbon revolutions (by proactively being the first to introduce them to the Pro peloton)...
...first to use drop bars
...first to use carbon forks
...first to use road suspension forks

...popularized spin bikes...

In the last 25+ years
...first to use a cycling computer
...first to use clipless pedals
...first to use hardshell helmet

He even used electronic shifting.

Now, shall we ask again who has done more for cycling when Pat doesn't even have anything in the positive column?

The question is a joke and Phat is a Pharce.

Dave.

 

[Tom375]

Of all things, that is absurd. Nobody outside of cycling gives a damn.

Unfortunately./QUOTE]

Couldn't agree more - talk about standing the truth on its head..

 

[I Watch Cycling In July]

Mr 'ultimately it's my decision' writing his own PR again.

Um, Pat, remember what happened after you said stuff like that about Landis in 2010......work out well for you did it?

 

[MarkvW]

Not that Mc has any real points but there are some things about the Change Cycling Now that is full of it.

Skins dude should not be in it. Made money of of corrupt cyclist and now suddenly needs to fuel the change.

From the outside it does appear that Lemond is arrogant to think he can run cycling. Then again the guy who is currently the president of the UCI is a freaking arrogant idiot.

But I am not sure why I am asking to be flamed for not buying into the Change Cycling now Bull but I have so get at it.

You could say that about everyone involved in cycling from the "clean" rider supporting the dirty team leader up to the "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" team owner/manager.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Pat gets all his PR advice from his Puppet master Hein.
There's no way that a PR company etc. could be being paid to make the amount of balls ups he does - unless it's a PR company run by Hein.

Actually, he hired an Irish guy to help with PR. I don't have the link handy. No joke.

Nothing changed, no surprise.

 

[Tinman]

Nobody outside of cycling gives a damn.

Unfortunately.

I think that is changing. The cycling zoo is affecting how people see sport. Doping controversies were the start, but financial mismanagement and corruption awareness is also on the increase. And that hurts IOC, as well as local government sport investment.

Expect to see sports interests outside cycling to start distancing themselves more from these clowns and support the cause for change in cycling. By focusing on cycling they keep the wolves away from their sports interests, just like the way Pat is trying to contain his and cycling's debacle to Lance.

 

[thehog]

I think that is changing. The cycling zoo is affecting how people see sport. Doping controversies were the start, but financial mismanagement and corruption awareness is also on the increase. And that hurts IOC, as well as local government sport investment.

Expect to see sports interests outside cycling to start distancing themselves more from these clowns and support the cause for change in cycling. By focusing on cycling they keep the wolves away from their sports interests, just like the way Pat is trying to contain his and cycling's debacle to Lance.

What about poor old Lance? Assigned to the dustbin whilst Fat Pat reigns!

Hog gotta be upset. He's a paid up member of Fraudsville Switzerland. Can't be happy that McQuaid referres to everything dirty as the "Armstrong era".

Hog and Lance need to fight. Fight hard.

 

[Kretch]

The sad truth in all this is that as much as he may make any rational person want to puke he is a consummate politician in the equivalent of a gerrymander. Cycling is stuck with him for quite a while longer.

 

[Tom375]

Actually, he hired an Irish guy to help with PR. I don't have the link handy. No joke.

Nothing changed, no surprise.

That's hilarious! - Pat is a joke!

 

[Tinman]

Cycling is stuck with him for quite a while longer.

Would not be so sure.

I would say Pat's position is becoming totally untenable. He is single handedly trying to defend all attacks, and further alienatating himself daily. Attacks are now coming from WADA, from CAS, from strong new interest groups (CCN), from some of the national Feds (eg his own Irish Fed), Katusha and Makarov (wait until Putin flexes his muscles), etc, etc.

Pat could be gone in a day. Which is why CCN has floated Greg as a credible interim successor. Because we don't need Pat and Hein to work one of their cronies in behind the scenes through the remaining supportive national feds.

The game is no longer whether Pat remains. It's who the successor will be and what plans for change will be carried forward. IMHO.

 

[Hugh Januss]

“If they say our attitude was inadequate, we’ll take the necessary measures to ensure that this sort of thing won’t happen again in the future with a big name rider,” he said. “In the USADA report on Armstrong, there were many accusations that we reject. The UCI is serene and convinced that the independent commission will show that these allegations are not justified as the UCI has always been a pioneer in the fight against doping.

“I think there is enough proof that the state of cycling is completely different today to what it was in the Armstrong era.”

So, when you say something that happened with Armstrong (woops) wouldn't happen with another big name rider we have to ignore that you were attempting to delay admitting Contadors positive?

Well clearly he meant Armstrong and Contador........Wigans....if necessarily.

The UCI is "serene" huh? Where have I heard that expression before? Oh yeah, every doper who has failed a test and is waiting for his B result or hearing or cover up.

 

[veganrob]

Phat is still talking tough, but his days are numbered. And it is not a very big number either.

 

[Tom375]

Would not be so sure.

I would say Pat's position is becoming totally untenable. He is single handedly trying to defend all attacks, and further alienatating himself daily. Attacks are now coming from WADA, from CAS, from strong new interest groups (CCN), from some of the national Feds (eg his own Irish Fed), Katusha and Makarov (wait until Putin flexes his muscles), etc, etc.

Pat could be gone in a day. Which is why CCN has floated Greg as a credible interim successor. Because we don't need Pat and Hein to work one of their cronies in behind the scenes through the remaining supportive national feds.

The game is no longer whether Pat remains. It's who the successor will be and what plans for change will be carried forward. IMHO.

Unfortunately i think Hein and Pat will have to be dragged out the door kicking and screaming. They have no intention of leaving honourably (not that is possible now anyway). Hein isn't even elected, Pat's elections have been gerrymandered in the same way as Blatter's (no other candidates etc.). I think they will try and ride it out until this internal audit/commission is done, try and take whatever positives they can get out of it (i.e cycling has done more dope tests than any other sport, biopassport bla bla blah) Big up these bits, try and paper over any weaknesses pointed out with a "we're not perfect but we'll address these issues etc."
The only thing that will get rid of them is if the massive stuff comes out in the audit but as others have pointed out they've had time to get the industrial shredder going before the commission starts and this is certainly not beneath their level to hide and bury the info the commission needs.

I agree that external forces are building up CCN, MPCC, WADA not happy etc. just not sure its enough to force the issue before the season is out or before the commission has published its findings. Do find it extraordinary though that they add to their own misery by not granting Katusha a licence and not give a reason for it (yet). Just seems particularly inept!!
Hopefully I'm wrong - just get the feeling of history repeating itself..

 

[thehog]

Unfortunately i think Hein and Pat will have to be dragged out the door kicking and screaming. They have no intention of leaving honourably (not that is possible now anyway). Hein isn't even elected, Pat's elections have been gerrymandered in the same way as Blatter's (no other candidates etc.). I think they will try and ride it out until this internal audit/commission is done, try and take whatever positives they can get out of it (i.e cycling has done more dope tests than any other sport, biopassport bla bla blah) Big up these bits, try and paper over any weaknesses pointed out with a "we're not perfect but we'll address these issues etc."
The only thing that will get rid of them is if the massive stuff comes out in the audit but as others have pointed out they've had time to get the industrial shredder going before the commission starts and this is certainly not beneath their level to hide and bury the info the commission needs.

I agree that external forces are building up CCN, MPCC, WADA not happy etc. just not sure its enough to force the issue before the season is out or before the commission has published its findings. Do find it extraordinary though that they add to their own misery by not granting Katusha a licence and not give a reason for it (yet). Just seems particularly inept!!
Hopefully I'm wrong - just get the feeling of history repeating itself..

I agree. They're staying. They're not going anywhere.

They'll keep doing what they do best. Nothing. They don't need to do anything.

Hog and Lance are our only saviors.

 

[Kretch]

Pat could be gone in a day.

By what mechanism?

 

[Hugh Januss]

Hog and Lance are our only saviors.

You are such a doofus sometimes.
I hope you are as wrong as you have been in the past on this one.

 

[Tinman]

By what mechanism?

Resign for a better IOC related gig. Or some cycling sports promotion role endorsed/contracted into with new successor UCI mgmt waiting in the wings.

Or a less likely option is that sufficient national feds will call an extraordinary GM and vote him out for a new mob.

We (I) don't know what's cooking in the background.