McQuaid Lies Again

[Benotti69]

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Interesting banter ... Interesting banter ..... Interesting banter ..... Interesting banter

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Tricky question

http://mobile.twitter.com/newcyclingpath/status/25398368201089024

Blocked!!!!

circling the wagons

 

[miloman]

I nominate this post as "Most likely True Situation" of the month.

I think this is exactly how Pat operates. The suitcase filled with cash didn't arrive quickly enough.

Armstrong not only delivered the required suitcase, but made a future investment to become a partner.

Interesting! I am curious, if it is common knowledge that this is how the sport operates and top UCI officials can be bought and according to Floyd Landis, Armstrong has done it at least once; why didn’t Floyd arrange a similar cash transaction in 2006? Why was Contador so naive? Did he not learn all Johan Bruyneel’s tricks? Maybe, it is not the conspiracy that so many make it out to be. Has anyone heard what Floyd has to say on the subject? He seems conspicuously closed mouth on this one. I would like to know if before Floyd found his conscience he tried to bribe the UCI and failed. Anyone have any insight?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Interesting! I am curious, if it is common knowledge that this is how the sport operates and top UCI officials can be bought and according to Floyd Landis, Armstrong has done it at least once; why didn’t Floyd arrange a similar cash transaction in 2006? Why was Contador so naive? Did he not learn all Johan Bruyneel’s tricks? Maybe, it is not the conspiracy that so many make it out to be. Has anyone heard what Floyd has to say on the subject? He seems conspicuously closed mouth on this one. I would like to know if before Floyd found his conscience he tried to bribe the UCI and failed. Anyone have any insight?

There is one huge difference between 2001(Armstrong) and after 2006 (Landis/Contador).

Since 2004 WADA now get a receipt of all cycling positive dope controls - so the UCI cannot lose samples anymore.

 

[MacRoadie]

There is one huge difference between 2001(Armstrong) and after 2006 (Landis/Contador).

Since 2004 WADA now get a receipt of all cycling positive dope controls - so the UCI cannot lose samples anymore.

Yeah but, yeah but, yeah but....

 

[miloman]

There is one huge difference between 2001(Armstrong) and after 2006 (Landis/Contador).

Since 2004 WADA now get a receipt of all cycling positive dope controls - so the UCI cannot lose samples anymore.

I am confused are you saying it does or does not work that way? Do riders bribe UCI officals or is that just hearsay? Have you ever heard if Floyd or anyone other than Armstrong bribed a UCI offical? Why is it that Armstrong is always the one? Why didn't Ullrich bribe officals when he was busted for recretional drug use? I find it hard to believe that as far back as '99 Armstrong was the center of the cycling universe.

 

[BotanyBay]

Interesting! I am curious, if it is common knowledge that this is how the sport operates and top UCI officials can be bought and according to Floyd Landis, Armstrong has done it at least once; why didn’t Floyd arrange a similar cash transaction in 2006? Why was Contador so naive? Did he not learn all Johan Bruyneel’s tricks? Maybe, it is not the conspiracy that so many make it out to be. Has anyone heard what Floyd has to say on the subject? He seems conspicuously closed mouth on this one. I would like to know if before Floyd found his conscience he tried to bribe the UCI and failed. Anyone have any insight?

I don't think it's "common knowledge". It just happens to make a "lot of sense". I think all of this stuff happens with subtle winks and nods. Reading between the lines. It also just might depend on who you know. Lance knows Johan, and Johan knows the old-school crowd. Paisano. " A friend of ours".

Landis has never struck me as a guy who was incredibly worldly. And yeah, I think Alberto is strong as a bull (doped to the gills), but dumb as a sack of hammers.

Also absolutely possible that you gotta "pave the way" with some smooth pavers long before you need that suitcase full o cash. Also possible that Landis is a complete tool. Also possible that he wasn't very liquid.

 

[BotanyBay]

There is one huge difference between 2001(Armstrong) and after 2006 (Landis/Contador).

Since 2004 WADA now get a receipt of all cycling positive dope controls - so the UCI cannot lose samples anymore.

Not if the lab employees are suddenly doing ski weekends in luxury hotels.

 

[MacRoadie]

I am confused are you saying it does or does not work that way? Do riders bribe UCI officals or is that just hearsay? Have you ever heard if Floyd or anyone other than Armstrong bribed a UCI offical? Why is it that Armstrong is always the one? Why didn't Ullrich bribe officals when he was busted for recretional drug use? I find it hard to believe that as far back as '99 Armstrong was the center of the cycling universe.

What he is saying is that, after 2004, the UCI did not have the same control over the dissemination of doping positives.

Prior to 2004, you could pay off the UCI and a doping positive could, potententially, disappear. Post-2004 WADA now gets copies of everything, so paying a bribe to the UCI now does no good.

Lance = pre-2004

Floyd = post-2004

Ullrich was suspended under the rules of the German Cycling Federation, not the UCI.

Out of competition tests in Germany are carried out by the Anti-Doping Commission, who must report it to the German cycling federation. Telekom specify that its team members be tested five times per year out of competition.

Ullrich tests non-negative for amphetamines

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I am confused are you saying it does or does not work that way? Do riders bribe UCI officals or is that just hearsay? Have you ever heard if Floyd or anyone other than Armstrong bribed a UCI offical? Why is it that Armstrong is always the one? Why didn't Ullrich bribe officals when he was busted for recretional drug use? I find it hard to believe that as far back as '99 Armstrong was the center of the cycling universe.

Yes I have.

Bribing officals has been a long part of the sport:
Heres one example.

The manager came to me after I came off the podium and said; “We might have a little problem with the control” [drug test] and sure enough I failed. In those days there was a certain sum you paid to a certain someone for the B sample to vanish [both samples have to test positive, no second sample = no positive], the sum was paid and my sample duly vanished.

Ullrichs test was not done by the UCI.

 

[BotanyBay]

Thanks Doc... I wanted to add: I think when McQuaid takes bribes, he ASKs to be bribed. Remember, you gotta first fit-in with McQuaid's "vision" of the sport. He only saves those who he really wants.

 

[theswordsman]

De Standaard did an interview with Pat McQuaid. You need to be a subscriber (anyone here?) to see past the first paragraph, but the title says a lot. I guess the philosophy is that the Biological Passport doesn't have big issues - the problem is that pesky justice system and athletes who can afford lawyers to protect them.

'Advocaten maken de sport kapot' "Lawyers are destroying the sport '

'Advocaten maken de sport kapot' "Lawyers are destroying the sport '
INTERVIEW Pat McQuaid, president reluctantly cycling
Author: Hans Vandeweghe

BRUSSELS - Is it the lingering cold? Or the sword above his head, and especially of Iljo Keisse Alberto Contador? UCI president Pat McQuaid sees the start of the 2011 cycling year some showers hang him or not be talking in this interview.

http://www.standaard.be/artikel/detail.aspx?artikelid=57352JK7

 

[thehog]

Yes I have.

Bribing officals has been a long part of the sport:
Heres one example.


Ullrichs test was not done by the UCI.

One might remember Floyds positive A result was leaked. Normally it would have vanished on the B sample and we'd be none the wiser and Floyd would be riding with Radioshack today.

 

[Benotti69]

One might remember Floyds positive A result was leaked. Normally it would have vanished on the B sample and we'd be none the wiser and Floyd would be riding with Radioshack today.

I imagine Floyd would have been with BMC today after wonderboy/hog poured is blood bag down the sink during a TdF after learning he was leaving for phonak

 

[python]

De Standaard did an interview with Pat McQuaid. "Lawyers are destroying the sport '

never fan or foe of legal profession, but this is a preposterous statement.

amazing that mcquaid conviniently forgot to mention (nor will you find this in any official uci public releases) that his own legal department consists of 4 full-time lawyers and scores of part-time consultants whose number has never been disclosed. it's funny how paddy forgot to mention that his lawyers threatened to sue (and actually did) not only 'talkative' athletes but also a number of international organizations (WADA..), and enterprises (ASO...) that dared to question uci's anti-doping efforts...and above all paddy forgot to mention vrijman, a lawyer paid almost half a million by the uci (when its annual budget was barely over 10 million !) to whitewash the biggest fraud of the cycling sport ever.

yeah, it's the (uci) lawyers fault

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Great post Python. Couldn't have said it better myself.