Member Suspension Appreciation/Depreciation Thread

[ChewbaccaD]

First rule of Trollkraft - you never discuss Trollkraft.

Epic fail on your part.

BTW, there are no rules of Trollkraft.

 

[sittingbison]

BTW, there are no rules of Trollkraft.

rule 303

 

[ChewbaccaD]

rule 303

Nah, the real question is where can you find Rule 34 on this subject.

 

[Stingray34]

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[hiero2]

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Nyah. Troll-dar gone, buddy. Not even close. But hey, you just keep on thinking its working. No problems, mate!

G-57 - I take that back. Your Troll-dar may be intact. But your guess of the case in question was way off the mark. That would give us no indication of any functioning Troll-dar. (that's so cute! Troll-dar. Hm.)

Nah, the real question is where can you find Rule 34 on this subject.

this calls for an omfg. Whooooaa. Maybe it is time for you to create it? After all, isn't that part of the rule?

Hey guys, since we are discussing the humor and reality of trolls - I thought you might enjoy this little byplay.

http://www.gocomics.com/getfuzzy/2014/02/13

 

[ChewbaccaD]

G-57 - I take that back. Your Troll-dar may be intact. But your guess of the case in question was way off the mark. That would give us no indication of any functioning Troll-dar. (that's so cute! Troll-dar. Hm.)



this calls for an omfg. Whooooaa. Maybe it is time for you to create it? After all, isn't that part of the rule?

Hey guys, since we are discussing the humor and reality of trolls - I thought you might enjoy this little byplay.

http://www.gocomics.com/getfuzzy/2014/02/13

I'm an exhibitionist in word only, but I can write a short piece of fiction on it...of course, it will get me banned pretty quickly.

 

[Granville57]

G-57 - I take that back. Your Troll-dar may be intact.

Oh it most certainly is.

One post.
One minute.
One more banned.

 

[del1962]

So the site bans Graham_S, the guy broke no rules from the posts I could see, but he ruffled some of the dopebots feathers, what a load of complete bo.llocks

 

[Tom375]

So the site bans Graham_S, the guy broke no rules from the posts I could see, but he ruffled some of the dopebots feathers, what a load of complete bo.llocks

I don't think he ruffled anyone's feathers, for the most part what I can see he genuinely came in looking a bit miffed and asked a few questions - and I would say he got some very good, thought out and backed up answers (esp from Red Flanders) which historically is not the case in this thread, however there are certain members on bans at the moment and some tied up in the Lance 3 thread.
I've found the response of the 'sky doped brigade' a lot more factual and refreshing than the normal snide remarks, it genuinely gave food for thought I think for some of the 'sky is clean brigade'.
I doubt Graham is a so called Skybot, he's probably just someone interested in cycling who happens to be English and thinks / thought Sky/bc were alright , came across this forum and didn't understand what all the fuss was about - he wasn't going to be won over in 5 posts, banning him seems a defeat I think he may have wanted his mind opened and some of the arguments were very constructive at showing why members believe sky doped, some of them were just snidely comments aimed at the poster...
'Journalist with integrity ' - my ****, what is that about anyway?
Can!t be bothered to write anymore - as Wiggins said 'lazy fookin ****e... Bla bla bla

 

[BroDeal]

So the site bans Graham_S, the guy broke no rules from the posts I could see, but he ruffled some of the dopebots feathers, what a load of complete bo.llocks

Challenge to the groupthink is not allowed. This was starkly evident during the shameful episode of Hincapie's statements being mischaracterized by the Andreus' version of Mark Fabiani and his automatons parroting his lies. No one is allowed to shade the spin he has painted in titanium white.

I decided to do a little testing to see how far this place has sunk. More than I suspected was the result. It was amusing to see how quick people turn. Deru kugi wa utareru. The really funny thing was that, ignoring RR's usual misrepresentations and straw men, everything I posted was true, just like Hincapie's statements. It just was not the simple truth that RR promotes.

I did have something confirmed that I had suspected, something that shows how putrid the forum has become. It might be fun when it is revealed.

 

[Race Radio]

Challenge to the groupthink is not allowed. This was starkly evident during the shameful episode of Hincapie's statements being mischaracterized by the Andreus' version of Mark Fabiani and his automatons parroting his lies. No one is allowed to shade the spin he has painted in titanium white.

I decided to do a little testing to see how far this place has sunk. More than I suspected was the result. It was amusing to see how quick people turn. Deru kugi wa utareru. The really funny thing was that, ignoring RR's usual misrepresentations and straw men, everything I posted was true, just like Hincapie's statements. It just was not the simple truth that RR promotes.

I did have something confirmed that I had suspected, something that shows how putrid the forum has become. It might be fun when it is revealed.

Funny, you never attempted to even address any of these supposed "Strawmen" but invented some of your own.

You tried to sell nonsense and nobody was buying. Not my fault

 

[mewmewmew13]

Not sure why some keep calling it 'groupthink'.
I make my own opinions and have my own ideas and reasons…no one can sway me or put words in my mouth.

I actually find it offensive that someone would suggest that I'm not capable of making my own mind up.

If someone can't push their own agenda and get it accepted then maybe one way of expressing their disgust or frustration is to label whatever 'groupthink'.

Certain facts or events have made me decide to believe or not believe in things..
other folks come to their own conclusions…if people share the same feelings then it's derided as acting like clueless sheep?

BS

 

[gooner]

Challenge to the groupthink is not allowed. This was starkly evident during the shameful episode of Hincapie's statements being mischaracterized by the Andreus' version of Mark Fabiani and his automatons parroting his lies. No one is allowed to shade the spin he has painted in titanium white.

I decided to do a little testing to see how far this place has sunk. More than I suspected was the result. It was amusing to see how quick people turn. Deru kugi wa utareru. The really funny thing was that, ignoring RR's usual misrepresentations and straw men, everything I posted was true, just like Hincapie's statements. It just was not the simple truth that RR promotes.

I did have something confirmed that I had suspected, something that shows how putrid the forum has become. It might be fun when it is revealed.

Alright boy, this forum is in the pits and the guys over in BikeRadar are retards.

You're above us all.

Funny, you never attempted to even address any of these supposed "Strawmen" but invented some of your own.

You tried to sell nonsense and nobody was buying. Not my fault.

No wonder he wants the hog back, this is something they have in common with each other now.

 

[Charybdis]

Not sure why some keep calling it 'groupthink'.

Groupthink is often when a group of people side with each other to make themselves feel good about a complex issue, and use humour and ridicule to 'other' the opposition. In this case Lance = bad, Betsy = good, overrides the complexities of 1990s doping and Frankie's own role in it. Because the group believe Lance is bad, this leaves the group vulnerable to conspiracy theories that confirm their preconceived biases - such as George MUST be part of a plot to smear Frankie for undefined reasons merely for recounting his own experiences of the period. If we're honest, we all kinda know what George said is probably true, but we think this truth might in some way hurt the good guys and aid the bad guys, so we form a group view that papers over the cracks. We also like RaceRadio because he says bad things about Lance, and that bias makes us want to back him even though we know he doesn't really have any grounds to support his assertions. His continued reference to the voice of the group "nobody is buying your nonsense" (actually five users did) shows that he himself is appealing to group loyalty over facts. Today he was reduced to pretending that BroDeal was talking about Lance's role as a patron of the peloton in the yellow jersy in the 2000s when he in fact he knows BroDeal's particular post about Lance being another rider was referencing 1995 at Motorrolla. When someone has to be dishonest and appeal to the group for backup, and uses ridicule to smear, that's often a red flag.

Btw, people might want to take a look at Betsy's facebook page and ask yourself is anybody here might have an agenda.

 

[sittingbison]

So the site bans Graham_S, the guy broke no rules from the posts I could see, but he ruffled some of the dopebots feathers, what a load of complete bo.llocks

sockpuppet

troll

disingenuous

three strikes and you're out

 

[sittingbison]

Challenge to the groupthink is not allowed....

seen me zapping jimmy, martin, gooner, del, rownham, Wallace, pedro etc?

seen me zapping the sceptic, dear wiggo, sniper, bobbins etc lately?

seen me zapping ryo, aphronesis, ChrisE (admittedly someone else zapped him but you get my gist) etc lately

seen me zapping chewie, race radio, thehog, scott, Bro etc lately? Oops, yes I DID zap thehog and race radio lately. Sorry about that one, slipped through to the keeper

Anyway, my point is I don't see an attack of groupthink braking out. Censorship? laughable. Armstrong is 20k posts, as is Sky. Wiggo and Dawg are about 5k.

 

[End Corrupt Bannings]

sockpuppet

troll

disingenuous

three strikes and you're out

So now you're lying that you gave him three strikes? What type of integrity is this?

 

[sittingbison]

So now you're lying that you gave him three strikes? What type of integrity is this?

s/he gave themselves three strikes. As DrMas says, apparently I didn't even bother checking or communicating with them

pay attention

 

[red_flanders]

I don't think he ruffled anyone's feathers, for the most part what I can see he genuinely came in looking a bit miffed and asked a few questions - and I would say he got some very good, thought out and backed up answers (esp from Red Flanders) which historically is not the case in this thread, however there are certain members on bans at the moment and some tied up in the Lance 3 thread.
I've found the response of the 'sky doped brigade' a lot more factual and refreshing than the normal snide remarks, it genuinely gave food for thought I think for some of the 'sky is clean brigade'.
I doubt Graham is a so called Skybot, he's probably just someone interested in cycling who happens to be English and thinks / thought Sky/bc were alright , came across this forum and didn't understand what all the fuss was about - he wasn't going to be won over in 5 posts, banning him seems a defeat I think he may have wanted his mind opened and some of the arguments were very constructive at showing why members believe sky doped, some of them were just snidely comments aimed at the poster...
'Journalist with integrity ' - my ****, what is that about anyway?
Can!t be bothered to write anymore - as Wiggins said 'lazy fookin ****e... Bla bla bla

Thank you. It was my intent to create good content no matter if the person was asking in good faith or not.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Thank you. It was my intent to create good content no matter if the person was asking in good faith or not.

I realised halfway through my response that it was probably wasted, but would concur - it's good to flex the ol' brain muscle sometimes and respond to a list of points with counter arguments or reasoning that refutes or at least challenges the assumptions being made.

To keep it going over old ground, ad infinitum, however. I can see the reasoning in nipping that in the bud.

 

[Netserk]

Thank you. It was my intent to create good content no matter if the person was asking in good faith or not.

You could always ask me to play devil's advocate

 

[ebandit]

delusions of grandeur

I decided to do a little testing to see how far this place has sunk. More than I suspected was the result. It was amusing to see how quick people turn. Deru kugi wa utareru. The really funny thing was that, ignoring RR's usual misrepresentations and straw men, everything I posted was true, just like Hincapie's statements. It just was not the simple truth that RR promotes.

I did have something confirmed that I had suspected, something that shows how putrid the forum has become. It might be fun when it is revealed.

if only i had the brains to write this

bro is a prince and the rest of the forum is rotten

now where is the nobel prize we have proof of an alternative universe

Mark L

 

[the sceptic]

Not sure why some keep calling it 'groupthink'.
I make my own opinions and have my own ideas and reasons…no one can sway me or put words in my mouth.

I actually find it offensive that someone would suggest that I'm not capable of making my own mind up.

If someone can't push their own agenda and get it accepted then maybe one way of expressing their disgust or frustration is to label whatever 'groupthink'.

Certain facts or events have made me decide to believe or not believe in things..
other folks come to their own conclusions…if people share the same feelings then it's derided as acting like clueless sheep?

BS

so why did the entire thread attack and ridicule BroDeal when he posted something that didnt fit the accepted theory that Armstrong is the purest form of evil?

 

[ebandit]

nice

bro is a prince and the rest of the forum is rotten is as bro views things

but maybe bro was getting flack because lance truly has been shown to be nasty

Mark L

 

[Dr. Maserati]

so why did the entire thread attack and ridicule BroDeal when he posted something that didnt fit the accepted theory that Armstrong is the purest form of evil?

See that's hyperbole.

I actually said on that thread, that GH was more than likely telling the truth.
But that it was a smear.

But I still get saddled with a groupthink or part of the orthodoxy (that was good!).