Member Suspension Appreciation/Depreciation Thread

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Umm, no, he continues to post.

If Netserk really was banned then the mechanics of whether another mod actually suspended his account or not, would not matter. There would be a note in the banned thread that netserk was banned and he would not make any posts in that time period. Simple.

Instead no note is placed, all the moderators explicitly state netserk is not banned, laugh about how they can't theoretically do it anyway, and he mucks around posting when he feels for kicks and giggles.

Thats not a voluntary ban now is it?

Yeah, I mean, if he was that serious about this he could have asked Benson to ban him - that's really all he had to do.

The alternative - if that was somehow impossible - would be to just stop posting during the length of his self-imposed "ban" and not draw attention to it - which he has, multiple times - and not just by retiring his sig, avatar and changing his user title to "Banned". But nooooo, everyone had to know about it. Makes you wonder, doesn't it.

Also, he obviously still has access to the mod forum, where posts don't affect your post count.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

For the sake of transparency, how many times has Netserk posted since his "ban" - including deleted posts? He went through several rounds of posting and then deleting.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Eshnar]

Yeah, I mean, if he was that serious about this he could have asked Benson to ban him - that's really all he had to do.

He did, actually.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

He did, actually.

The rest of my post still applies. Why did he draw so much attention to his self-imposed ban? What purpose did that serve?

And why did he continue to post if he wanted to appear fair to regular forum users? Do you think this is in any way normal behavior for a mod?

 

[Eshnar]

The rest of my post still applies. Why did he draw so much attention to his self-imposed ban? What purpose did that serve?

And why did he continue to post if he wanted to appear fair to regular forum users? Do you think this is in any way normal behavior for a mod?

I just wanted to make clear that he did ask Dan to ban him. As for the rest, I do not know, and I think even if I knew I wouldn't be entitled to say anything on his account.

 

[BigMac]

Cool got **** to do with it. Nothing wrong with being cool. But its different if someone wants to be a moderator and continue to delete peoples posts liberally and ban them.

I don't see Ryo Hazuki or Jens Attacks applying to be moderators. Or Chewbacca. And when wonderlance did he was refused. http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=977704

By cool, i mean i never had moderating problems with him (nor any other mod, other than a minor mistake of mine in the God and Religion thread that was later correctly edited). But yet again, i belive those kind of stuff you complain are usually out of the Pro Race Section, where i mainly post and read. So I don't really know.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

I just wanted to make clear that he did ask Dan to ban him. As for the rest, I do not know, and I think even if I knew I wouldn't be entitled to say anything on his account.

Thanks, I appreciate the answer anyway.

 

[sittingbison]

For the sake of transparency, how many times has Netserk posted since his "ban" - including deleted posts? He went through several rounds of posting and then deleting.

...And why did he continue to post if he wanted to appear fair to regular forum users? Do you think this is in any way normal behavior for a mod?

He made 4 posts on this thread only more than 24 hours ago. Answering a question posed by Cyviel. Then nothing since.

Hardly the behaviour several have accused him of, ducking in and out etc.

He asked Daniel to ban him. He has always maintained he should be judged like any other poster for his posts. Nothing is posted in the suspension thread as none of us have suspended him. Perhaps he will post his self imposed sentence and duration there himself.

 

[Cyivel]

* Cyivel

Thanks

 

[del1962]

Until someone actually ban me (I can't do it myself, nor can Eshnar).

No longer a mod, resigned or sacked?

 

[Netserk]

No longer a mod, resigned or sacked?

None of your business?

 

[Christian]

Already busy cracking group rape jokes I see. Great stuff!

 

[ebandit]

welcome back

None of your business?

welcome back Netserk

spotted BPC mentioned................a 'near' legend.....gotta love a tryer

Mark L

 

[pedaling squares]

No longer a mod, resigned or sacked?

None of your business?

Don't know and don't care, but I hope that you make it a permanent move if you really pulled this stunt:

Netserk's account shows him as banned, yet he still posted in response to me but then those posts were deleted.

 

[Netserk]

Don't know and don't care, but I hope that you make it a permanent move if you really pulled this stunt:

'Cause it's so hard to confirm on your own

 

[RownhamHill]

He has always maintained he should be judged like any other poster for his posts.

Ermm, why should a mod 'maintaining' that he should be judged like any other poster for his posts be worthy of comment?

Being judged like any other posters for posts should be the bare minimum for a moderator's posts - in fact I'd argue, since they're responsible for moderating the tone and culture of the forum, as well as acting as a referee between posters when things get out of hand, that moderator's posts should be judged by a harsher standard than any run of the mill poster's posts.

Others might disagree about that, and whatever, it's not important, but what is important is that a mod being judged by the same criteria as everyone else is so obvious it isn't even worthy of any debate. (Unless someone seriously wants to argue that that mods should be able to break the rules because they're mods?)

 

[red_flanders]

Being judged like any other posters for posts should be the bare minimum for a moderator's posts - in fact I'd argue, since they're responsible for moderating the tone and culture of the forum, as well as acting as a referee between posters when things get out of hand, that moderator's posts should be judged by a harsher standard than any run of the mill poster's posts.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[sittingbison]

Although you qouted me out of context Rownham Hill, I agree entirely with everything else you say.

 

[BroDeal]

You should ban Mike Vandeman right now. No good can come from allowing him to post here.

 

[Cyivel]

Yep, hit him with the big boot and legdrop and then perma ban him.

 

[BroDeal]

Yep, hit him with the big boot and legdrop and then perma ban him.

Worse than Frank Day. While Day is a con man who trolls forums that are not well moderated enough to ban him to help sell his Power Cranks by sowing confusion about research that shows his product does not work, Vandeman is a dangerous and violent loon. In 1998 he was voted Usenet Kook of the Month. That should give a good idea about how long he has been carrying on his jihad.

Talking about Frank Day, whatever happened to the policy of confining his peddling his pedaling wares to one thread? Who wants to even read that forum let alone post in it when all it is is Day arguing that his snake oil is not really snake oil?

 

[42x16ss]

Talking about Frank Day, whatever happened to the policy of confining his peddling his pedaling wares to one thread? Who wants to even read that forum let alone post in it when all it is is Day arguing that his snake oil is not really snake oil?

In amongst all the trolling, hashing and rehashing of points there are actually snippets of real info from acoggan and CoachFergie in the PowerMeter thread, but you have to be patient

 

[MarkvW]

Worse than Frank Day. While Day is a con man who trolls forums that are not well moderated enough to ban him to help sell his Power Cranks by sowing confusion about research that shows his product does not work, Vandeman is a dangerous and violent loon. In 1998 he was voted Usenet Kook of the Month. That should give a good idea about how long he has been carrying on his jihad.

Talking about Frank Day, whatever happened to the policy of confining his peddling his pedaling wares to one thread? Who wants to even read that forum let alone post in it when all it is is Day arguing that his snake oil is not really snake oil?

Totally agree. It's against forum policy to spam advertisements, but if you look at Frank Day's posts, that's exactly what he does. Over and over and over and over.

 

[RownhamHill]

Although you qouted me out of context Rownham Hill, I agree entirely with everything else you say.

Genuinely not sure what the context I missed was, but apologies if you felt I was quoting unfairly.

 

[hiero2]

Worse than Frank Day. While Day is a con man who trolls forums that are not well moderated enough to ban him to help sell his Power Cranks by sowing confusion about research that shows his product does not work, Vandeman is a dangerous and violent loon. In 1998 he was voted Usenet Kook of the Month. That should give a good idea about how long he has been carrying on his jihad.

Talking about Frank Day, whatever happened to the policy of confining his peddling his pedaling wares to one thread? Who wants to even read that forum let alone post in it when all it is is Day arguing that his snake oil is not really snake oil?

Mikey was around a lot longer than that. You know he finally got jail time for physically attacking mountain bikers? Not virtually, either.

Frank, I think, actually believes what he says. If it were as easy as he was just trying to sell something - I would have banned him when I had the chance. Almost did, but he would behave for a while, when asked - so it was more like a marriage that is "Too bad to stay, and too good to leave" 51% - 51% sort of thing. Frank is like an old friend of mine - a very rational, reasonable, intelligent person - until you find the edge they stand on - in my friend's case it is government conspiracies. Once they get on that razor edge - well - no longer rational, reasonable, etc to be nice about it. In Frank's case, it is the whole short crank, independent motion crank idea. He got star struck by the brilliance of it when the idea first burst into his skull, and has been blind to anything else in the picture ever since.