Thomsena said:And how many times haven't we seen him getting caught because of the lack of skills to positioning himself correctly? Let's not make him out to be good at it, shall we...?
Gloin22 said:This year in two GT's he didn't show any capabilities of wining. Nuf' said for me.
Same goes for Evans in 2010Gloin22 said:This year in two GT's he didn't show any capabilities of wining. Nuf' said for me.
Cause Dennis is not a year older as well-The Hitch said:If Contador gets banned as seems likely, then who is there to beat Menchov?
Evans yes but that is in no way a foregone conclusion. Evans is a year older, and anything can happen between him and Dennis on climbs and in tts.
Then who? Wiggins, Menchov is a better climber.
Samu. Menchov is a better tter.
Schleck, Menchov is a way better tter.
Everyone else, Menchov is better at both.
Menchov has as good a chance as anyone to win this. If he times his peak and avoids crashes and organiser screwjobs that is.
The Hitch said:If Contador gets banned as seems likely, then who is there to beat Menchov?
theyoungest said:Same goes for Evans in 2010![]()
The Hitch said:If Contador gets banned as seems likely, then who is there to beat Menchov?
Evans yes but that is in no way a foregone conclusion. Evans is a year older, and anything can happen between him and Dennis on climbs and in tts.
Then who? Wiggins, Menchov is a better climber.
Samu. Menchov is a better tter.
Schleck, Menchov is a way better tter.
Everyone else, Menchov is better at both.
Menchov has as good a chance as anyone to win this. If he times his peak and avoids crashes and organiser screwjobs that is.
Yeah. And he himself said that only towards the end of the Vuelta he found real form.Gloin22 said:Showed more at Giro then Menchov did, and was fatiguted by it in the Tour. While Menchov had Giro, and then Vuelta and with such competition he had in Vuelta he didn't do that well. and he himself said fatigue wasn't a problem from Giro![]()
just some guy said:Cause Dennis is not a year older as well-![]()
Angliru said:I'm simply giving him credit when it's due him, which you don't seem willing or able to do.
theyoungest said:Yeah. And he himself said that only towards the end of the Vuelta he found real form.
Menchov went into the season thinking he would ride the Tour, but the ASO made the ridiculous decision to exclude last year's no. 3 in favour of Saur-Sojacrap. It may have disrupted his season planning a little?
Like I said, when he's good, this doesn't happen to him. You can tell his form from his positioning. Ergo he's not bad at it, just doesn't bother most of the time.Thomsena said:I like Menchov. But I'm definitely not ready to give him credit for his positioning skills.![]()
So his winter prep was already mostly done. And maybe it put a dent in his motivation. It certainly seemed that way throughout the season.roundabout said:The wildcards were announced in January. On the 20th, the google search tells me. 107 days before the Giro start.
Thomsena said:I like Menchov. But I'm definitely not ready to give him credit for his positioning skills.![]()
The Hitch said:Cadel Evans February 14, 1977
Denis Menchov January 25, 1978
Who do you think is a year older?
theyoungest said:So his winter prep was already mostly done. And maybe it put a dent in his motivation. It certainly seemed that way throughout the season.
I will go to the Giro to win. I really want the Giro, and afterwards, I will try to win the Vuelta
roundabout said:I will go to the Giro to win. I really want the Giro, and afterwards, I will try to win the Vuelta
The Hitch said:Did Menchov say that and if so, do you have a source?
Maybe not, but Nibali isn't Menchov, who maybe has a little more difficult character.roundabout said:Now you seem to be making excuses. Would Nibali not knowing his exact GT schedule on the 18th of January 2012 have his season planning disrupted?
roundabout said:No, I make all quotes up.
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/7...nchov-targeting-Giro-and-Vuelta-for-2011.aspx