Menchov could of beaten Cadel in this year's tour if he was invited.

[Libertine Seguros]

Menchov could have never pulled of those 2 impressive chases Evans did in the Alps

Not to mention that he would have probably been 5 minutes behind all the others in the GC before they had seen the first mountain, seeing that Menchov is very good at losing unnecessary time by not paying attention in the first week and this Tour gave him a lot of opportunities to do so.

Maybe you don't remember the 2009 Giro, but I reckon a Menchov in that form could have done a decent job of the chases Evans did. He was ironman in that race.

On your second point about Menchov losing unnecessary time, that is where Evans holds a huge advantage over him. Menchov could easily have been 5 minutes down alright.

 

[maltiv]

With the same W/kg Horner produced in ToC he would've won every MTF by 2-3 minutes on his closest rivals.

With the same w/kg on the climbs as Wiggins produced in the dauphine he would've at least kept up with the best on every MTF and most likely taken time on Evans in the TT.

 

[SilentAssassin]

2010 Menchov would have won this with 2 fingers in his nose. But same can be said about 2010 Andy and 2010 Samu(without TTT and crashes)

2011 Contador in the Giro would have raped this field and won with even bigger margin than the Giro. They were THAT slow up the mountains. Hell, Scarponi and Nibali would have podiumed here if you compare the data of the climbs.

But the thing is, Cadel Evans won. And for real.

2009 Lance would of won this tour without a doubt.

 

[unsheath]

So the OP starts a useless thread and then disappears completely after its shot down. Weak as p1ss.

 

[HL2037]

2009 Lance would of won this tour without a doubt.

No, 1996 Bjarne Riis would have destroyed him with the help of 1994 Indurain.

 

[Damiano Machiavelli]

Menchov has never been able to beat a healthy Evans at the Tour.

The austards are already starting to get annoying and the Tour has not even reached Paris yet. No one can say anything without them whinging about the thread.

 

[Ferminal]

Good thing you watched the Giro.

 

[Franklin]

2009 Lance would of won this tour without a doubt.

MMMMM the tears of frustrated "fans" are DELICIOUS.

And all your anger will not change reality... if I were you I would keep on to that belly of anger.. makes you a more respected person

 

[taiwan]

The OP is straight trolling. Nothing to see here.

 

[joe1265]

BBBBbbbbbwwwwwwaaaaahhhh - hhhhaaaaaa - hhhhaaaaa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[sublimit]

Menchov has never been able to beat a healthy Evans at the Tour.

The austards are already starting to get annoying and the Tour has not even reached Paris yet. No one can say anything without them whinging about the thread.

The gloating Austalian fans are insufferable to be fair,, its kind of like they've never won anything ever. And the idea of a National holiday for winning a sporting event is kind of funny- but maybe they want to spend the day on internet forums and slag everybody and continue to get on everybody's nerves lol.

 

[Aguirre]

A very good Alejandro Valverde (a la Dauphine 09) could have beaten Evans

 

[Libertine Seguros]

A very good Alejandro Valverde (a la Dauphine 09) could have beaten Evans

More often than not, Alejandro Valverde beats Evans. It's the bane of ACF's existence that Evans kept finishing behind Valverde in various events.

 

[El Pistolero]

More often than not, Alejandro Valverde beats Evans. It's the bane of ACF's existence that Evans kept finishing behind Valverde in various events.

Although he now has a better palmares than Valverde. But for sure, a top form Valverde would never have been dropped in the mountains if he raced smart.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

in theory theo bos could have also.

 

[El Pistolero]

in theory theo bos could have also.

Galimzyanov would have won if he didn't fail to meet the time cut.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Although he now has a better palmares than Valverde. But for sure, a top form Valverde would never have been dropped in the mountains if he raced smart.

We could debate the relative strengths of the palmarès until the cows come home. Evans has the worlds, but Valverde has 2 LBLs; Evans has a Tour, which is better than Valverde's Vuelta, but Valverde has the edge in the compiling of lesser stage races by quite some way. There's not a lot in it.

 

[cineteq]

Oh yes I did go there. I'd argue that Menchov in top form can climb better than Cadel and Time trial just as good. I definitely think Menchov could have won the tour this year if his team was invited, especially considering Sastra would be a super domestique in the mountains.

LOL + more characters

 

[El Pistolero]

We could debate the relative strengths of the palmarès until the cows come home. Evans has the worlds, but Valverde has 2 LBLs; Evans has a Tour, which is better than Valverde's Vuelta, but Valverde has the edge in the compiling of lesser stage races by quite some way. There's not a lot in it.

Well, Cuddles has T-A and 2 Romandie victories versus 2 DL and one Catalunya. All other victories are really small races that don't weight up against the Tour. But Bala Verde is younger, but still don't see him ever win the Giro or Tour now. Perhaps another Vuelta or 2 is possible. Although it's rumored that next year Tour will have a lot of medium mountain stages...

 

[luckyboy]

If Merckx was 40 years younger maybe he could've beaten Cadel

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Thomas Dekker would have beaten them all if they had given him a team at 1st of july

Ofcourse he would only be 2nd to Wilco Kelderman though if he had a pro contract already

 

[Praetor]

Maybe you don't remember the 2009 Giro, but I reckon a Menchov in that form could have done a decent job of the chases Evans did. He was ironman in that race.

I remember Di Luca and LPR doing almost all of the work and Menchov cleverly leeching off of their efforts (can't blame him, since his own team was so worthless, as they were with all his grand tour wins)

 

[Velo Dude]

I also could have won if I'd been invited.......and given a Ducati. What a shame I wasn't invited.

More of a shame that you weren't given a Ducati, I suspect.

 

[Sem Travões]

Yeah riding for Katusha

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I remember Di Luca and LPR doing almost all of the work and Menchov cleverly leeching off of their efforts (can't blame him, since his own team was so worthless, as they were with all his grand tour wins)

And that's different from Leopard doing all the work and Evans profiting, and his BMC teammates doing very little, how?