Mens Road Race: Suprises and dissapointments

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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Lol ACF94, a medal doesn't get remembered, only the champion.
Maybe you will remember a medallist for 4/5 years, but after that? I doubt it.

Tell me who won bronze in 2001 without using google? I wouldn't know

Even some of the winners of the Worlds are completely forgettable. Just look at the Worlds of 2000 and 2003.
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Lol ACF94, a medal doesn't get remembered, only the champion.
Maybe you will remember a medallist for 4/5 years, but after that? I doubt it.

Tell me who won bronze in 2001 without using google? I wouldn't know

To be honest, I don't remember who won the gold in 2001 without looking it up. In general I know what riders have won a world championship, but more then 3-4 years in the past I won't know what year they won.


And going back and actually looking at the riders... is it bad that I had no idea Astarloa ever won a WC? And I don't even know who Romāns Vainšteins or Oskar Camenzind are.
 
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kurtinsc said:
To be honest, I don't remember who won the gold in 2001 without looking it up. In general I know what riders have won a world championship, but more then 3-4 years in the past I won't know what year they won.


And going back and actually looking at the riders... is it bad that I had no idea Astarloa ever won a WC? And I don't even know who Romāns Vainšteins or Oskar Camenzind are.
They were actually both very good riders, but if they were before your time, they were before your time....

Camenzind was versatile, not only classics specialist winning Lombardy, LBL and the worlds, but also winning tours like the Tour de Suisse, 12th in TDF 1997.
The fact that he was a doper doesn't change much since almost the entire top of his time was later caught or at least very heavily suspect. So he wasn't doing it differently than his competitors.

Vainsteins is your classical 'strong' sprinter. Just like Hushovd is nowadays. 3rd in Flanders, 3rd in San Sebastian, 3rd in San Remo, 2nd in HEW... not fast enough to win mass sprints in GT's but always in the mix when he could place himself.
 
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Vainsteins had everything to become one of the best classics riders/semi-sprinters of his time. He was up there in Paris-Roubaix, won bunch sprints here and there (including at the Giro), won a decent amount of semi-classics, the WC... But he pretty much disappeared after a few seasons. Pity.

Camenzind was my favourite rider at the time, I can't describe my joy when he won the 1998 WC.
 
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I can't describe my pain at the WC 1998.

Boogerd in top shape getting a flat tire at the worst possible moment. :( I;m still sure without that he would've beaten them all at home ground
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Vainsteins is your classical 'strong' sprinter. Just like Hushovd is nowadays. 3rd in Flanders, 3rd in San Sebastian, 3rd in San Remo, 2nd in HEW... not fast enough to win mass sprints in GT's but always in the mix when he could place himself.

Didn't you just tell us that only the winner is remembered?
 
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That rule applies to normal people. Not me. I'm a cyclingfreak. I suck results, stats and figures up like a sponge.
Besides Vainsteins won the World Championships, that's enough to remember him for.
 
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slowoldman said:
Don't feel bad, I doubt half the current pro peleton would know who these two are......
Vainsteins and Camenzind? Those aren't nobodies, you know. A lot of the riders will at least have heard their names mentioned once or twice.