Men's U23 races and talents

[yaco]

What does Noah Hobbs have anything to do with Visma?

"No one is saying u23 racing is easy to control" you missed this part.

Also no one is saying they should bring these breaks back, what they should not do is just give them 4 minutes before starting to chase and actually limit the damage.

We are posting about L'Avenir and not about the Visma team. My post referencing the Giro Next Gen is relevant because GB could not get a fast sprinter to one final, and if we take it further another poster mentioned that the top 4 in that race got time from breakaways. Anyway, these bif under 23 races need bigger teams.

 

[RedheadDane]

My post referencing the Giro Next Gen is relevant because GB could not get a fast sprinter to one final, and if we take it further another poster mentioned that the top 4 in that race got time from breakaways.

There was no "GB" at the Giro Next Gen, just GB riders on various teams.

 

[yaco]

There was no "GB" at the Giro Next Gen, just GB riders on various teams.

It is the same principle. five rider teams could not bring back the break on flatter stages.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Turconi was bad (or didn’t try?) in the upphill prologue, so maybe Italy doesn’t believe he will be relevant anyway and therefore were more worried about Decomble and Dalby?

 

[RedheadDane]

A-HAA! Øxenberg going under-cover!

107	Feldmann Karsten Larsen	Norway
108	Nordhagen Jørgen	Norway
109	Ingebrigtsen Storm	Norway
110	Fougner Eivind Broholt	Norway
111	Øxenberg Peter	Denmark
112	Høydahl Jonas Kind	Norway

 

[Samamba]

It is the same principle. five rider teams could not bring back the break on flatter stages.

Can you show me towards the actual flat stage in the Giro? Like said before, u23 racing is unpredictable and harder to control, not only because you only have 5 domestiques, but also because these domestiques are often not all a pretty high level. BUT this years Giro simply didn't have an easy to control stage. Every stage had a mountain in the middle or some hills making it way harder to control. That was the reason why so many breaks went and sticked.

 

[yaco]

Can you show me towards the actual flat stage in the Giro? Like said before, u23 racing is unpredictable and harder to control, not only because you only have 5 domestiques, but also because these domestiques are often not all a pretty high level. BUT this years Giro simply didn't have an easy to control stage. Every stage had a mountain in the middle or some hills making it way harder to control. That was the reason why so many breaks went and sticked.

It still gets back to the fact it is hard to control stages with 5 riders. If we are serious these big development races have 7 or 8 rider teams.

 

[Brullnux]

Turconi was bad (or didn’t try?) in the upphill prologue, so maybe Italy doesn’t believe he will be relevant anyway and therefore were more worried about Decomble and Dalby?

Turconi had an intense race schedule up to early July, 40-odd days with about half of those at pro level, which is quite a lot for a 19 year old. His results have been a lot worse since, maybe understandably, so I think Italy know that he won't feature in the hardest stages other than as a domestique for Finn.

 

[hayneplane]

Big break of 20 with 2 minutes, involving veteran of the race Simon Dalby, who seems keen to finish this stage as soon as possible as he has to be back at the home by 4.

There could be a grey jersey for best over 21 rider.

 

[AlfaLum]

2 minutes will be nothing in these last couple of stages.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Ongoing Seixas ambush?

 

[Tim Cahill]

Paul attack with teammates, taking advantage of a peloton who couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Jarno now trying to go on the flat, some err... agricultural cycling tactics on display, wouldn't get this at the Vuelta!

 

[Samamba]

A guy who's been pro for 2 years straight bullying others.

 

[RedheadDane]

Shaky-cam footage of the finish line.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Unless the time is catastrophically wrong then he has it

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Finally he wins something on the road.

 

[RedheadDane]

The KOM leader has one of those amazing "how many c's, and s's and z's can we put in a row?" Polish names

Patryk Goszczurny

Patryk Goszczurny (born 2006-03-14 in Kalisz) is a road racing cyclist from Poland, currently riding for Team Visma | Lease a Bike Development. His best results are 2nd place in stage Orlen Nations Grand Prix and 2nd place in National Championships Poland MU23 - ITT.

www.procyclingstats.com

 

[yaco]

As previously discussed it can be hard to bring back a break on a flat/rolling stage with 6 rider teams.

 

[pastronef]

now wait a minute, the stage 6-A of l'Avenir has like 30 km neutralized start zone? (from la Rosiere to Morgex?)

 

[AlpRaid]

As previously discussed it can be hard to bring back a break on a flat/rolling stage with 6 rider teams.

why pro tour should go down to 6 or even 5.

 

[nightowl]

why pro tour should go down to 6 or even 5.

This would make a lot of races unwatchable, half of them already end with a big solo by Pogacar or MvdP and this would make it even easier for them to get away.

 

[ingsve]

why pro tour should go down to 6 or even 5.

Cause people really love and prefer those transitional stages in GTs constested by 15 domestiques right? You tune in to the last couple of hours of a race and it's all over except for a small group that won't ever get caught who fight it out among themselves. That's not really what the sport needs more of.

 

[Berniece]

This would make a lot of races unwatchable, half of them already end with a big solo by Pogacar or MvdP and this would make it even easier for them to get away.

Might also make it easier for other riders to get away from Pogacar since UAE isn't there to control the race.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Lots of actvity,.
Peloton complete with 10kms to go.