Men's U23 races and talents

[Red Rick]

No, definitely not, but worth remembering that Nordhagen came 13th in Romandie too, and he looked worse than his age group rivals both at the Giro and Avenir.

I don't think Seixas was at his best during l'Avenir, but it is only natural that a pro goes better than riders who are taking a slower or more gradual route to the WT, for whatever reason. That's why I'm not sure he's 'miles ahead', rather than just... ahead. As an example, I don't think he'd have come within 30s of Soderqvist yesterday.

I also don't think it's fair to right off the rest before they even turn pro. We have seen Ayuso plateau at an early age and others like Almeida grow year on year.

Agree on all counts. Seixas could probably have done better in his TT because I don't think he prepared very specificially for it, but I think Söderqvist straight up gets 3rd if he races the ME TT.

The step from top 10 in Dauphine to GT winner is definitely the biggest one. And I'm slightly sceptical about guys with a physical build like Seixas, i.e. tall and super thin.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I think Söderqvist straight up gets 3rd if he races the ME TT.

Highly debatable. He weighs 83kg and the section of the parcours that was cut out for U23 was 8km with the 2km climb at 6.6%. That would definitely have impacted the pacing plan for the rest of the course and severely impacted his average speed due to the climb itself.

The step from top 10 in Dauphine to GT winner is definitely the biggest one. And I'm slightly sceptical about guys with a physical build like Seixas, i.e. tall and super thin.

Yeah, that's a fair point. It remains to be seen. In his defense i would say that usually those super skinny tall climbers suck at TT'ing and he doesn't.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

And I'm slightly sceptical about guys with a physical build like Seixas, i.e. tall and super thin.

 

[Red Rick]

Still haunts me to this day

 

[Samamba]

No more nations cup at u23 level. We could possibly still see pros at the Tour de l'Avenir next year then, which is fine to me. On the other hand I did like the occasional race between countries instead of teams because teams are now just all development teams of World or top Pro Teams anyways.

 

[ingsve]

No more nations cup at u23 level. We could possibly still see pros at the Tour de l'Avenir next year then, which is fine to me. On the other hand I did like the occasional race between countries instead of teams because teams are now just all development teams of World or top Pro Teams anyways.

Could Tour de l'Avenir go back to even being a U-25 race then.

 

[RedheadDane]

Spare a thought for Tobias Svarre...

Program​

• 04.10 European Continental Championships MU - Road Race
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• 04.10 Il Lombardia Under 23
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[Logic-is-your-friend]

Widar takes gold in the ECC U23 RR.

 

[Onizuka999]

Decomble 2nd Alvarez 3rd Gualdi 4th. The world champ Finn 10th.