Mental or random cycling statistics

[Armchair Cyclist]

With Kruijswijk being in the break, I thought to myself "It must be a while since he won": I didn't expect his most recent win to have been as long ago as August 2014 (nor that he only has 2 wins). And his last WT win was June 2011.

Seems extraordinary to still be racing at the same team level, having been a winner, for so long after a win. But is it a record?

Sort of outdoes Kelderman: on WT for longer, and has proved capable of a win.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

With Kruijswijk being in the break, I thought to myself "It must be a while since he won": I didn't expect his most recent win to have been as long ago as August 2014 (nor that he only has 2 wins). And his last WT win was June 2011.

Seems extraordinary to still be racing at the same team level, having been a winner, for so long after a win. But is it a record?

Luis Ángel Maté went 12 years without a win while riding for second tier teams (Cofidis were WT in his last season with them) before he started winning in Guarda in the Volta a Portugal, but he never won anything above .1.

 

[RedheadDane]

Random fact:

Soudal is the only organisation with a team in all four races* Sunday.


*Specifically those four races that are taking place in Northern France.

 

[Wyndbrook]

Boring sad fact, Soudal are the only Roubaix team sponsor who's product I have knowingly used today. (Infact all frigging day until now).
Not used my car or ridden my bike

 

[RedheadDane]

Boring sad fact, Soudal are the only Roubaix team sponsor who's product I have knowingly used today. (Infact all frigging day until now).
Not used my car or ridden my bike

Do you usually use a lot of team sponsors?

 

[Panda Claws]

Since Milano-Sanremo, Wout Van Aert now has 10 podiums in big one day-races (Monument, WCRR, OGRR) in a row without winning one. I probably already posted about this because he didn't get another podium since 2023, but he's now even more firmly in the lead.
- 27/09/2020: 2nd at WC
- 18/10/2020: 2nd at RVV
- 20/03/2021: 3rd at MSR
- 24/07/2021: 2nd at Olympics
- 17/04/2022: 2nd at Paris-Roubaix
- 24/04/2022: 3rd at LBL
- 18/03/2023: 3rd at MSR
- 09/04/2023: 3rd at PR
- 06/08/2023: 2nd at WC
- 21/03/2026: 3rd at MSR

In 2nd place we find Alejandro Valverde, Raymond Poulidor, Frans Verbeeck and Felice Gimondi who managed to get 8 podiums without winning one again.

If we look at top-10s instead of podiums then Van Aert is also getting up there.
1. Frans Verbeeck: 31
2. Raymond Poulidor: 26
3. Herman Van Springel: 21
4. Michael Boogerd: 19
5. Felice Gimondi: 18
5. George Hincapie: 18
5. Wout Van Aert: 18

 

[Squire]

Luis Ángel Maté went 12 years without a win while riding for second tier teams (Cofidis were WT in his last season with them) before he started winning in Guarda in the Volta a Portugal, but he never won anything above .1.

Imanol Erviti 12 years in the WT after his last win. And 13 years after last WT win (which is not as long as Kruijswijk).

Valerio Agnoli raced for 14 years after his one and only win (at .Pro level), but 'only' the last 12 of those were in the WT.

I found those two by only looking at two teams, so it's probably not that uncommon for a rider with early win(s) to go on for a long time without ever doing it again.

 

[vappa]

Since Milano-Sanremo, Wout Van Aert now has 10 podiums in big one day-races (Monument, WCRR, OGRR) in a row without winning one. I probably already posted about this because he didn't get another podium since 2023, but he's now even more firmly in the lead.
- 27/09/2020: 2nd at WC
- 18/10/2020: 2nd at RVV
- 20/03/2021: 3rd at MSR
- 24/07/2021: 2nd at Olympics
- 17/04/2022: 2nd at Paris-Roubaix
- 24/04/2022: 3rd at LBL
- 18/03/2023: 3rd at MSR
- 09/04/2023: 3rd at PR
- 06/08/2023: 2nd at WC
- 21/03/2026: 3rd at MSR

In 2nd place we find Alejandro Valverde, Raymond Poulidor, Frans Verbeeck and Felice Gimondi who managed to get 8 podiums without winning one again.

5x2nd and 5x3rd, perfectly balanced, as all things should be

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Imanol Erviti 12 years in the WT after his last win. And 13 years after last WT win (which is not as long as Kruijswijk).

Valerio Agnoli raced for 14 years after his one and only win (at .Pro level), but 'only' the last 12 of those were in the WT.

I found those two by only looking at two teams, so it's probably not that uncommon for a rider with early win(s) to go on for a long time without ever doing it again.

Marcel Sieberg took his second career win while at Wiesenhof in 2006 and then spent 15 years at the top level with a 4th place on a Vuelta stage as his highest placement in a major race (finishing 7th in the 2016 Paris-Roubaix was obviously his best individual result).

Koen de Kort won a l'Avenir stage when it was a U25 race in 2005, his maiden pro season, and then retired 16 years later (well almost 16 due to his freak accident).

 

[Panda Claws]

Always fun to see the random facts people here end up knowing. Has Libertine Seguros found this thread yet?

 

[RedheadDane]

Just for fun; all teams with Pro Wins before The Picnic WT Team (apart from all the other WT teams):

Team Brennan: National Championships Australia ME - Road Race (11/1)
Roojai Insurance Winspace: National Championships Thailand ME - ITT (16/1)
Unibet Rose Rockets: Clàssica Comunitat Valenciana - Gran Premi València (25/1)
Tudor Pro Cycling Team: AlUla Tour, stage 3 (29/1)
Cofidis: Grand Prix Cycliste de Marseille La Marseillaise (1/2)
Team Flanders Baloise: Etoile de Bessèges - Tour du Gard, stage 1 (4/2)
Modern Adventure Pro Cycling: National Championships South Africa ME - ITT (5/2)
Van Rysel Roubaix: Etoile de Bessèges - Tour du Gard, stage 4 (7/2)
TotalEnergies: Classic Var (21/2)
NSN Development Team: Tour du Rwanda, stage 1 (22/2)
Pinarello Q36.5 Pro Cycling Team: Vuelta a Andalucia Ruta Ciclista Del Sol, stage 5 (22/2)
Development Team Picnic PostNL: Tour du Rwanda, stage 3 (24/2)
Soudal Quick-Step Devo Team: Tour du Rwanda, stage 4 (25/4)
Team UKYO: Giro di Sardegna, stage 1 (25/2)
REMBE | rad-net: Tour du Rwanda, stage 5 (26/2)
Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe Rookies: Giro di Sardegna, stage 2 (26/2)
Solution Tech NIPPO Rali: Giro di Sardegna, stage 3 (27/2)
Equipo Kern Pharma: Region on Dodecanese GP (1/3)
Kinan Racing Team: Tour de Taiwan, stage 5 (19/3)
Burgos Burpellet BH: Clássica Terres de l'Ebre (21/3)
Terengganu Cycling Team: The Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn's Cup Tour of Thailand, stage 1 (24/3)
General Store - Essegibi - F.Lli Curia: Settimana Internazionale Coppi e Bartali, stage 2 (26/3)
Li Ning Star: The Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn's Cup Tour of Thailand, stage 4 (27/3)
Quick Pro Team: Tour of Hainan, stage 3 (17/4)
AVC Aix Provence Dole: Vuelta Asturias Julio Alvarez Mendo, stage 1 (23/4)
Team Storck - MRW Bau: Vuelta Asturias Julio Alvarez Mendo, stage 3 (25/4)
Team Polti VisitMalta: Giro dell'Appennino (26/4)

And they finally got their first win on 30/4!

 

[SafeBet]

Just for fun; all teams with Pro Wins before The Picnic WT Team (apart from all the other WT teams):

Team Brennan: National Championships Australia ME - Road Race (11/1)
Roojai Insurance Winspace: National Championships Thailand ME - ITT (16/1)
Unibet Rose Rockets: Clàssica Comunitat Valenciana - Gran Premi València (25/1)
Tudor Pro Cycling Team: AlUla Tour, stage 3 (29/1)
Cofidis: Grand Prix Cycliste de Marseille La Marseillaise (1/2)
Team Flanders Baloise: Etoile de Bessèges - Tour du Gard, stage 1 (4/2)
Modern Adventure Pro Cycling: National Championships South Africa ME - ITT (5/2)
Van Rysel Roubaix: Etoile de Bessèges - Tour du Gard, stage 4 (7/2)
TotalEnergies: Classic Var (21/2)
NSN Development Team: Tour du Rwanda, stage 1 (22/2)
Pinarello Q36.5 Pro Cycling Team: Vuelta a Andalucia Ruta Ciclista Del Sol, stage 5 (22/2)
Development Team Picnic PostNL: Tour du Rwanda, stage 3 (24/2)
Soudal Quick-Step Devo Team: Tour du Rwanda, stage 4 (25/4)
Team UKYO: Giro di Sardegna, stage 1 (25/2)
REMBE | rad-net: Tour du Rwanda, stage 5 (26/2)
Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe Rookies: Giro di Sardegna, stage 2 (26/2)
Solution Tech NIPPO Rali: Giro di Sardegna, stage 3 (27/2)
Equipo Kern Pharma: Region on Dodecanese GP (1/3)
Kinan Racing Team: Tour de Taiwan, stage 5 (19/3)
Burgos Burpellet BH: Clássica Terres de l'Ebre (21/3)
Terengganu Cycling Team: The Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn's Cup Tour of Thailand, stage 1 (24/3)
General Store - Essegibi - F.Lli Curia: Settimana Internazionale Coppi e Bartali, stage 2 (26/3)
Li Ning Star: The Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn's Cup Tour of Thailand, stage 4 (27/3)
Quick Pro Team: Tour of Hainan, stage 3 (17/4)
AVC Aix Provence Dole: Vuelta Asturias Julio Alvarez Mendo, stage 1 (23/4)
Team Storck - MRW Bau: Vuelta Asturias Julio Alvarez Mendo, stage 3 (25/4)
Team Polti VisitMalta: Giro dell'Appennino (26/4)

They needed this post from you as extra motivation!

 

[RedheadDane]

They needed this post from you as extra motivation!

And to think, I even ultimately decided to not include some of the more obscure national championships...

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Weird coincidence: There are 7 guys in the Giro startlist whose names age Van Something: when the startlist is arranged by price in the CQ Game, 4 of those seven appear in a row. And I found a pretext for another sneaky reminder to get teams in before the race starts.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Weird coincidence: There are 7 guys in the Giro startlist whose names age Van Something: when the startlist is arranged by price in the CQ Game, 4 of those seven appear in a row. And I found a pretext for another sneaky reminder to get teams in before the race starts.

Don't forget I van García Cortina.

 

[RedheadDane]

Riders with GT stage wins in capitals other than Madrid, Paris, or Rome:

René Vietto - Brussels (Tour 1947)
Aldo Ronconi - Luxembourg City (Tour 1947)
Roger Lambrecht - Brussels (Tour 1949)
Charly Gaul - City of San Marino (Giro 1958)
Nino Defilippis - City of San Marino (Giro 1959)
Julien Schepens - Brussels (Tour 1960)
Roger Rivière - Brussels (Tour 1960)
Rolf Maurer - City of San Marino (Giro 1964)
Mariano Díaz - Andorra la Vella (Vuelta 1967)
Felice Gimondo - City of San Marino (Giro 1968)
Franco Bitossi - City of San Marino (Giro 1969)
Eddy Merckx - City of San Marino (Giro 1969)
Roger De Vlaeminck - Luxembourg City (Giro 1973)
Walter Planckaert - Brussels (Tour 1978)
Giuseppe Saronni - City of San Marino (Giro 1979)
Jo Maas - Brussels (Tour 1979)
Bernard Hinault - Brussels (Tour 1979)
Freddy Maertens - Brussels (Tour 1981)
Roberto Visentini - City of San Marino (Giro 1987)
Erik Breukink - Luxembourg City (Tour 1989)
Acácio da Silva - Luxembourg City (Tour 1989)
Guido Bontempi - Andorra la Vella (Vuelta 1991)
Laurent Jalabert - Brussels (Tour 1992)
Silvio Martinello - Athens (Giro 1996)
Andrea Noé - City of San Marino (Giro 1998)
Chris Boardman - Dublin (Tour 1998)
Tom Steels - Dublin (Tour 1998)
Denis Zanette - Ljubljana (Giro 2001)
Rubens Bertogliati - Luxembourg City (Tour 2002)
Fabian Cancellara - London (Tour 2007)
Bradley Wiggins - Amsterdam (Giro 2010)
Alessandro Petacchi - Brussels (Tour 2010)
Marcel Kittel - Belfast, Dublin (Giro 2014); London (Tour 2014)
Peter Sagan - Bern (Tour 2016)
Vincenzo Nibali - Andorra la Vella (Vuelta 2017)
Tom Dumoulin - Jerusalem (Giro 2018)
Primoz Roglic - City of San Marino (Giro 2019)
Mike Teunissen - Brussels (Tour 2019)
Sepp Kuss - Andorra la Vella (Tour 2021)
Simon Yates - Budapest (Giro 2022)
Yves Lampaert - Copenhagen (Tour 2022)
Mads Pedersen - Tirana (Giro 2025)
Joshua Tarling - Tirana (Giro 2025)
Paul Magnier - Sofia (Giro 2026)

So, obviously a lot in capitals of neighbouring countries.
Kittel the only one with multiple... all in the same year.

 

[tobydawq]

Don't forget I van García Cortina.

Or Dono Van Mark.

 

[Red Rick]

Kittel having four stage wins in the Giro but none of them in Italy still bothers me

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Someone will tell us when there was last a South American 1-2 in a Grand Tour, or whether we have ever had one before without either being Colombian.

 

[tobydawq]

Kittel having four stage wins in the Giro but none of them in Italy still bothers me

The best part was that when he won the fourth stage, he hadn't even ridden a Giro stage in Italy because he DNF'ed after stage 3 in 2014.

And he had never won in Italy at all but would sadly do that in Tirreno a few years later.

 

[tobydawq]

Someone will tell us when there was last a South American 1-2 in a Grand Tour, or whether we have ever had one before without either being Colombian.

My guess would be that it hasn't happened before.

 

[dampframme]

If we still count MAL's results from 2022, that would be stage 14 of the Vuelta that year, with Carapaz 1st and MAL 2nd.

 

[Netserk]

two non colombian latin americans did so in the giro last year

 

[BahamontesPhantom]

Cadel Evans finished 2nd in 7 major stage races including 2 tours de France.
His combined deficit in over 300 hours of racing was less than 300 seconds.

 

[RedheadDane]

Someone will tell us when there was last a South American 1-2 in a Grand Tour, or whether we have ever had one before without either being Colombian.

Is that an order?
Or a prediction?

The only one I can think of is Quintana, Uran in the 2014 Giro, but they're both Colombian.

two non colombian latin americans did so in the giro last year

Yates is Latin American?