Michael Barry

[Granville57]

http://www.thestar.com/sports/2010/05/20/toronto_cyclist_michael_barry_denies_claims_he_used_drugs.html

So much of that article should be framed and hung on the wall. Classic.

“For me ever since I was young, cycling is about the journey,” said Barry, whose father Michael Sr. ran a bike store and instilled his love of the sport. “It’s what you get out of the ride, whether it’s a bike race or a long training ride.

“That’s something my father taught me when I was a young kid. That’s always been the most important thing to me. I’ve always made my own finish line. It’s about the feeling of elation when I finish a race and to be able to sleep well at night.”

“I’ve always raced clean and that was the goal since I was a kid,” said the three-time Olympian. “My mother put those values into me and my mother made me promise I would go back to school the minute I felt I wasn’t progressing. Having their support has been crucial in all this.”

Very classy way of playing off the parent/child emotions.

Barry said he only rode with Landis one day leading to the Vuelta and that drugs were never part of the equation.

“I was shocked when I was told about it."

“I have known Michael since he was 15 years old and he has been a teammate, a friend, and a person I have looked to for hope as an athlete,” said Hughes. “Hope that it is possible to play fair and clean and that hard, disciplined work pays off. He is an individual of great integrity and there is simply no way in my mind that there is any basis to any allegations.”

“It’s complete defamation is what it is,” said Demet from their home in Girona, Spain. “And it’s really, really hurtful, especially for someone like Michael, who’s been in the sport for as many years as he has and he’s always done the best he can do to be ethical and to do things the right way on every level. That’s what makes it especially hurtful. You can’t really take it back when your name is smeared in the press.”

Gee, I wonder if she has Michelle Cound on speed dial.


And people wonder where all the cynicism comes from?

 

[D-Queued]

The reality is for most people the cat was out of the bag when USPS staff were filmed dumping a bag filled with drugs, syringes, and medical waste in 2000

^^^ This!

And this is why Michael was already tainted.

However Clara came to make her statement, the underlying need motivation (by Barry to have her make it) was clear. USPS/Disco was already openly tainted.

Note the FOCUS on: "...allegations..."

Otherwise, there was no reason to defend Barry and there would have been no interest in her statement. She was speaking directly to "allegations" of doping.

In a way, Clara's statement is actually a statement of complicity for Michael. Again, if he wasn't doping, and if Robbie was right that it wasn't news, then it would not have been needed.

Of course, as the delgados, Neworld, JMB, westerner, Banockburn, and Race Radio have rightly pointed out - and as anyone with a modest interest in pro cycling was aware - Robbie is dead wrong about USPS/Disco doping being some kind of a secret.

All you had to do was read the road graffiti: "Lance Dope".

By Robbie's account, Syringe Man had no clue what he was doing because the USADA reasoned decision hadn't been prepared yet.

Dave.

 

[Granville57]

All you had to do was read the road graffiti: "Lance Dope".

Semantics...

 

[D-Queued]

Semantics...

Apparently we are to believe that only a select few insiders could read that...

Robbie, would you like to modify your position slightly?

Just asking.

Dave.

 

[westerner]

More ''gems'' from Michael Barry. Hey kids, a long time ago in a galaxy far far away....


IN THE PAST WE JUSTIFIED THE USE OF DRUGS
“In the time when cyclists took drugs you tried to justify it in any way really. It was a huge part of the culture of cycling at the time. You just tell yourself: ‘Well, everybody is doing it, it is part of what you do, and it is what you have to do to continue in the sport.’ And I am not by any means saying that is the right thing to do. But I justified it to myself by saying it was healthier to do it because of the way we were pushing our bodies and just how hard the sport was. But ultimately it took away what I loved most about the sport which was that sense of freedom that I had from riding a bike. In that period I was paranoid and a lot of the joy from what I was doing was gone.”

http://http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/10951513/Michael-Barry-the-truth-about-cycling-domestiques.html

so is tramadol use made cycling healthier too? and 2012-current does not seem to fit super well in this long forgotten past timeline.

“I used tramadol at Sky,” Barry said of an opioid-based painkiller in use during his tenure (2010 to 2012) at the British cycling team. He went on to say that the drug alleviated the pain in his legs and allowed him to race hard. Other effects were a feeling of euphoria and trouble concentrating. Barry, who spoke to the British media outlet ahead of the release of his new book, Shadows on the Road, has indicted that painkillers, stimulants and sleeping pills, to manage the effects of the former, are still in the mix in pro cycling"

The 6 month crew are selling books like hotcakes, winning $'s at 'fun races', repping sponsors, scoring prestigious tv gigs etc etc and really driving home well the message that DOPING DOES NOT PAY.

 

[Neworld]

Another problem is that somehow Mike Barry has infiltrated to be a honourable and 'valid' journalist with ... http://cyclingmagazine.ca and with British sports columns.

Very disturbing.

I'm sending off a letter to cyclingmagazine to share my lack of appetite for their magazine as long as they hire unethical writers.

 

[Race Radio]

More ''gems'' from Michael Barry. Hey kids, a long time ago in a galaxy far far away....


“I used tramadol at Sky,”

He BROUGHT tramadol to sky

 

[D-Queued]

More ''gems'' from Michael Barry. Hey kids, a long time ago in a galaxy far far away....


IN THE PAST WE JUSTIFIED THE USE OF DRUGS
“In the time when cyclists took drugs ...

Nauseating.

Even Lance is exhibiting more honesty than this kind of tripe.

IOW, we are learning more and more about Michael's true character.

Liar. (in my humble opinion, of course)

Dave.

 

[thehook]

Barry is just as ridiculous as many of them. Maybe more. Dude wrote a BS book to cash in. Then comes out having doped. Then gives a half assed look into his time at SKY. Tramadol kid!

 

[fmk_RoI]

Sans comment. Because, really...Barry on Tramadol

"The thing with doping is that there is a black and a white. Did the team cross into the black? No, in my opinion. They didn’t dope, but there is a grey area. The use of painkillers falls into that grey area. Tramadol falls into that grey area."

 

[D-Queued]

Re:

Sans comment. Because, really...Barry on Tramadol

"The thing with doping is that there is a black and a white. Did the team cross into the black? No, in my opinion. They didn’t dope, but there is a grey area. The use of painkillers falls into that grey area. Tramadol falls into that grey area."

Well stated. Maybe its just me, but if doping is 'a black and a white', then playing the gray area isn't white now is it?

Dave.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Re: Re:

Sans comment. Because, really...Barry on Tramadol

"The thing with doping is that there is a black and a white. Did the team cross into the black? No, in my opinion. They didn’t dope, but there is a grey area. The use of painkillers falls into that grey area. Tramadol falls into that grey area."

Well stated. Maybe its just me, but if doping is 'a black and a white', then playing the gray area isn't white now is it?

Dave.

If doping is black and white you numpty there is no grey area: it's all either black or it's white. Why is this so hard for you to grasp?

 

[veganrob]

Interesting article on Tramadol

http://www.itv.com/news/utv/update/2016-10-06/prescription-painkiller-claiming-more-lives-than-any-other-drug/

 

[D-Queued]

Re: Re:

Sans comment. Because, really...Barry on Tramadol

"The thing with doping is that there is a black and a white. Did the team cross into the black? No, in my opinion. They didn’t dope, but there is a grey area. The use of painkillers falls into that grey area. Tramadol falls into that grey area."

Well stated. Maybe its just me, but if doping is 'a black and a white', then playing the gray area isn't white now is it?

Dave.

If doping is black and white you numpty there is no grey area: it's all either black or it's white. Why is this so hard for you to grasp?

Umm, who is the numpty?

Please refer to the (now) bolded part above. Perhaps you missed that when you included it in your reply, but it appears that after claiming that that doping is black or white that he, Barry, then scopes out a gray area, or at least claims that Sky is living in the gray area. So, if you are agreeing with Barry, then you cannot claim there is no gray area.

To belabor the point, Barry is contradicting himself which is the irony in his statements.

In so doing, of course, he is logically injecting black into white to make gray. Ergo, his logic dictates that Sky is dirty.

Just saying.

Dave.

 

[MarkvW]

Re: Re:

Sans comment. Because, really...Barry on Tramadol

"The thing with doping is that there is a black and a white. Did the team cross into the black? No, in my opinion. They didn’t dope, but there is a grey area. The use of painkillers falls into that grey area. Tramadol falls into that grey area."

Well stated. Maybe its just me, but if doping is 'a black and a white', then playing the gray area isn't white now is it?

Dave.

If doping is black and white you numpty there is no grey area: it's all either black or it's white. Why is this so hard for you to grasp?

Umm, who is the numpty?

Please refer to the (now) bolded part above. Perhaps you missed that when you included it in your reply, but it appears that after claiming that that doping is black or white that he, Barry, then scopes out a gray area, or at least claims that Sky is living in the gray area. So, if you are agreeing with Barry, then you cannot claim there is no gray area.

To belabor the point, Barry is contradicting himself which is the irony in his statements.

In so doing, of course, he is logically injecting black into white to make gray. Ergo, his logic dictates that Sky is dirty.

Just saying.

Dave.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding. How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

 

[Robert5091]

Re: Re:

Hope that's not that, "Bertie's Beef".

 

[sniper]

Re:

Interesting article on Tramadol

http://www.itv.com/news/utv/update/2016-10-06/prescription-painkiller-claiming-more-lives-than-any-other-drug/

good link.

Fair game to Michael Barry for at least granting that interview to the Daily Telegraph.
Although you sense that the interview was done on Michael's terms leaving no room for the journo to take a tougher line of questioning, in the end this is still another important dent in the holier than though marginal gains image Sky PR put out there.
Still, Barry's semi-confession ("stopped in 2006" LMAO) means he is still a big part of the problem and not close to being part of the solution.

And let's not forget that his wife Dede came out of nowhere, literally, to claim silver at the 2004 athens games in the Olympic TT in a stunning time bettered only by an unbelievable ride by Leontin van Moorsel.

Here's a nice one from Zabriskie's affidavit:

Bruyneel and del Moral also left a box of testosterone patches, saying EPO worked best when taken with testosterone. Afterward, Barry, Zabriskie and Barry’s wife Dede discussed EPO and justified using it because of its “wide use in the peloton.

Dede, 2012 USA Cycling team selector:
https://instaviser.com/community/sleeping-high-olympic-cyclist-dede-barry-on-altitude-tents

 

[fmk_RoI]

Re: Re:

Although you sense that the interview was done on Michael's terms leaving no room for the journo to take a tougher line of questioning, in the end this is still another important dent in the holier than though marginal gains image Sky PR put out there.

If you believe Dineen capable of asking tough questions you clearly haven't read him much.

Further, this story is three years old.

 

[D-Queued]

Re: Re:

Although you sense that the interview was done on Michael's terms leaving no room for the journo to take a tougher line of questioning, in the end this is still another important dent in the holier than though marginal gains image Sky PR put out there.

If you believe Dineen capable of asking tough questions you clearly haven't read him much.

Further, this story is three years old.

Thanks - it figures.

A cynical punster might suggest that:
- News about Barry travels slowly
- This suggests that he isn't an A-Lister
- Nobody cares about Sky doping since the info is out there

Or something like that.

Dave.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Re: Re:

A cynical punster might suggest that:
- News about Barry travels slowly
- This suggests that he isn't an A-Lister
- Nobody cares about Sky doping since the info is out there

Or something like that.

That the people who latch on to these things and claim them as doing damage to Sky have poor memories?

 

[D-Queued]

Re: Re:

A cynical punster might suggest that:
- News about Barry travels slowly
- This suggests that he isn't an A-Lister
- Nobody cares about Sky doping since the info is out there

Or something like that.

That the people who latch on to these things and claim them as doing damage to Sky have poor memories?

Self-confession, if this was posted previously then I admit to a very poor memory of it!

So, if you are referring to me at all, definitely my bad.

Dave.

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

Although you sense that the interview was done on Michael's terms leaving no room for the journo to take a tougher line of questioning, in the end this is still another important dent in the holier than though marginal gains image Sky PR put out there.

If you believe Dineen capable of asking tough questions you clearly haven't read him much.

Further, this story is three years old.

You're probably right it won't do much if any damage to sky.
As for Dineen, he's a young guy and already miles ahead of Moore, Friebe and other fanboys with typewriters.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Re: Re:

Although you sense that the interview was done on Michael's terms leaving no room for the journo to take a tougher line of questioning, in the end this is still another important dent in the holier than though marginal gains image Sky PR put out there.

If you believe Dineen capable of asking tough questions you clearly haven't read him much.

Further, this story is three years old.

You're probably right it won't do much if any damage to sky.
As for Dineen, he's a young guy and already miles ahead of Moore, Friebe and other fanboys with typewriters.

As I guessed: you haven't actually read him.

 

[sniper]

As I said, miles ahead.
Sorry if that offends you somehow.
By all means keep guessing.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Re:

As I said, miles ahead.
Sorry if that offends you somehow.
By all means keep guessing.

You've read Velopedia? You've read Kings of the Road? You've read Reg Harris? Which of his books have you actually read? (He's better known for his books than cycling journalism.)