Michael Phelps is coming back ?

[masking_agent]

So Michael Phelps is coming out of retirement to compete again.

Will he be back under the jurisdiction of IOC out of competition tests ?

Did he and his doctors find the right PED and masking agent to allow for this ?

Do you think he already tested this new PED to see if it allows him to compete at a high level again ?

Going to one interesting 2016 Olympic games

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/olympic-great-michael-phelps-ending-retirement-23319568

 

[Catwhoorg]

So Michael Phelps is coming out of retirement to compete again.

Will he be back under the jurisdiction of IOC out of competition tests ?

He did his 6 months in the USADA registered testing pool, as the article states.

So yes, as a registered athlete at the highest level, he is fair game for the USADA, the sports governing body (FINA?), and even the IOC (or WADA) to run OOC tests.

He has to fill in his whereabouts.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Presumable hes getting tired of sucking on the bong.

Hopefully he won't end up like Ian Thorpe.

 

[fuzzydunlop3]

what is up with Thorpe and Hackett? Aren't they both having substance abuse issues now?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

what is up with Thorpe and Hackett? Aren't they both having substance abuse issues now?

Famous guys, heroes of a nation with no mission in life anymore, but with some cash in the bank account would be my guess.

 

[fuzzydunlop3]

what are people's general opinion on Phelps with regards to doping? are there any red flags in terms of suspicious doctors or associations?

I remember back in '08 when Gary Hall Jr talked openly about a doping problem in swimming, he didn't receive much support from fellow swimmers and coaches. Bob Bowman in particular evaded the question when asked about Gary's comments. Looking back, sure does seem like signs of an omerta existing in swimming.

 

[Catwhoorg]

Besides his DUI and the Water pipe/bong incident...

I'm not aware of anything more than rumour and speculation.

Swimming is/was rife with PED's, and yes there is/was an omerta. So as an winner, with a remarkable record over many years, people will speculate.

 

[Benotti69]

The Yanks have not found anyone as responsive to PEDs as Phelps and the Chinese have shown they have defo got their athletes programs up and running.

 

[DirtyWorks]

So Michael Phelps is coming out of retirement to compete again.

Will he be back under the jurisdiction of IOC out of competition tests ?

Did he and his doctors find the right PED and masking agent to allow for this ?

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/olympic-great-michael-phelps-ending-retirement-23319568

You are operating under the false assumption that his sports federation would sanction him should he fail the IQ test.

What sports federation would sanction their most visible athlete?

I'm definitely not saying he's doping. Just that the federation can choose not to process a positive. It would have to be some kind of crazy bad luck where the NADO tests him and he fails for him to get a sanction.

 

[The Hitch]

Swimmer seem to come out of retirement more than professional wrestlers.

To retire and come back sort of ruins the legacy imo.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

what are people's general opinion on Phelps with regards to doping? are there any red flags in terms of suspicious doctors or associations?

I remember back in '08 when Gary Hall Jr talked openly about a doping problem in swimming, he didn't receive much support from fellow swimmers and coaches. Bob Bowman in particular evaded the question when asked about Gary's comments. Looking back, sure does seem like signs of an omerta existing in swimming.

You mean besides his massive HGH jaw?

 

[RobbieCanuck]

So Michael Phelps is coming out of retirement to compete again.

Will he be back under the jurisdiction of IOC out of competition tests ?

Did he and his doctors find the right PED and masking agent to allow for this ?

Do you think he already tested this new PED to see if it allows him to compete at a high level again ?

Going to one interesting 2016 Olympic games

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/olympic-great-michael-phelps-ending-retirement-23319568

What a stupid thread.

An immediate and unwarranted attack on Phelps due to his comeback, implying doping when there is not a shred of evidence. The Clinic is notorious as a cesspool of speculation, conjecture, guess, hypothesis, supposition, surmise, theory, bias, uniformed opinion, sarcasm, insults and bad wit.

This thread is just another example. Come on administrators - either get real or shut the Clinic down!

 

[Dear Wiggo]

The Clinic is notorious as a cesspool of speculation, conjecture, guess, hypothesis, supposition, surmise, theory, bias, uniformed opinion, sarcasm, insults and bad wit.

The Clinic is a cesspool of speculation, conjecture, guess, hypothesis, supposition, surmise, theory, bias, uniformed opinion, sarcasm, insults and bad wit. No one in the real world of cycling cares a rats a$$ about the Clinic, just the regulars on here with nothing better to do. And that being said surely you don't hold yourself out to be the paragon of anti-doping because all you do is complain. I haven't seen a single constructive suggestion by you yet as to stopping doping.

You can add "echo chamber" to that list of nouns.

 

[Bosco10]

But.. but.. does he really eat 12000 calories?

 

[RobbieCanuck]

But.. but.. does he really eat 12000 calories?

Ask him!!!!

 

[RobbieCanuck]

You can add "echo chamber" to that list of nouns.

You my friend, have a good memory.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

But.. but.. does he really eat 12000 calories?

This kid schools Phelps.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw8iljkD1So

Plus he only weighs 120 pounds.

 

[Archibald]

The Yanks have not found anyone as responsive to PEDs as Phelps.

sure they have. Isn't this America's biggest PED responder?

 

[RobbieCanuck]

But.. but.. does he really eat 12000 calories?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnSePTB5UA0

 

[Ripper]

What a stupid thread.

An immediate and unwarranted attack on Phelps due to his comeback, implying doping when there is not a shred of evidence. The Clinic is notorious as a cesspool of speculation, conjecture, guess, hypothesis, supposition, surmise, theory, bias, uniformed opinion, sarcasm, insults and bad wit.

This thread is just another example. Come on administrators - either get real or shut the Clinic down!

Chillaxxxxx

 

[Afrank]

What a stupid thread.

An immediate and unwarranted attack on Phelps due to his comeback, implying doping when there is not a shred of evidence. The Clinic is notorious as a cesspool of speculation, conjecture, guess, hypothesis, supposition, surmise, theory, bias, uniformed opinion, sarcasm, insults and bad wit.

This thread is just another example. Come on administrators - either get real or shut the Clinic down!

Just because someone else doesn't share your opinion on Phelps doesn't mean it isn't valid or that the discussion should be shut down.

There's a simple solution to this. If you really hate the thread so much, don't open it. You also might want to consider toning it down a bit.

 

[slowspoke]

He did break the world record for 200m fly at 15 years old. Hard to believe he'd be on PED's from that early age.

 

[Ripper]

He did break the world record for 200m fly at 15 years old. Hard to believe he'd be on PED's from that early age.

Believe or not others have done so from such a young age as well.

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Just because someone else doesn't share your opinion on Phelps doesn't mean it isn't valid or that the discussion should be shut down.

There's a simple solution to this. If you really hate the thread so much, don't open it. You also might want to consider toning it down a bit.

Cycling News advertises the Clinic as follows,

The Clinic
The Clinic is the only place on Cyclingnews where you can discuss doping-related issues. Ask questions, discuss positives or improvements to procedures.

There is absolutely no evidence period that Michael Phelps has ever doped, how can a thread about him relate to doping issues?

This thread is simply imaginative and manufactured gossip. Fiction. The basis for it has no validity what so ever.

To remind you, this is what Masking Agent alleged:

Did he and his doctors find the right PED and masking agent to allow for this ?
Do you think he already tested this new PED to see if it allows him to compete at a high level again ?

An opinion to have any validity at all is based on some reasonable basis of informed fact. In this thread there is none, just the usual Clinic B$ based on a news story about a top athlete returning to his sport.

Clinicians have this attitude because he is the most decorated summer Olympic athlete it is open season on the athlete to smear him with innuendo and speculation he has doped. You seem to support this kind of trash.

Now as an administrator if you cannot recognize this, you have to be blind. Your comment is irresponsible and you should consider resigning.

 

[deviant]

Cycling News advertises the Clinic as follows,

The Clinic
The Clinic is the only place on Cyclingnews where you can discuss doping-related issues. Ask questions, discuss positives or improvements to procedures.

There is absolutely no evidence period that Michael Phelps has ever doped, how can a thread about him relate to doping issues?

This thread is simply imaginative and manufactured gossip. Fiction. The basis for it has no validity what so ever.

To remind you, this is what Masking Agent alleged:

Did he and his doctors find the right PED and masking agent to allow for this ?
Do you think he already tested this new PED to see if it allows him to compete at a high level again ?

An opinion to have any validity at all is based on some reasonable basis of informed fact. In this thread there is none, just the usual Clinic B$ based on a news story about a top athlete returning to his sport.

Clinicians have this attitude because he is the most decorated summer Olympic athlete it is open season on the athlete to smear him with innuendo and speculation he has doped. You seem to support this kind of trash.

Now as an administrator if you cannot recognize this, you have to be blind. Your comment is irresponsible and you should consider resigning.

Exactly the same mud gets slung around in the cycling threads, riders and teams are alleged to be using PEDs based on nothing more than good performances.
If its good enough and considered 'evidence' in the cycling threads then why not swimming?

Swimmers have been busted for PEDs in the past and will again in the future i'm sure, Phelps is the most successful swimmer, might a discussion on alleged PED use re. Phelps not be pertinent?