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He is at Pais Vasco as he expected and as he was last year. He said he was here to try a stage and he got that,. the one he wanted and 2 days leder, so very well.JRanton said:A bit better today though still not great. Pauwels was with him and managed to finish ahead of him which isn't great. Still a month left to the Giro so hopefully he'll be ready.
Hugo Koblet said:He was up against Aru who's best result in a previous GT is a third place and who quite clearly rode for second place, and Landa who had never previously performed in a GT and wasn't allowed to attack. The rest of the top 10 was Amador, Hesjedal, König, Kruijswijk, Caruso, Geniez and Trofimov. Hardly a stellar field. That said, the Giro might have been hard, but I think that last year's Giro field is one of the weakest in recent time. It might even be as weak as 2012.Eshnar said:Well he did face the winner of the Vuelta, which apparently had a better field.Hugo Koblet said:However, nowadays the Giro certainly has the weakest lineup of the three Grand Tours. I don't think that last year's Giro was that hard to be honest. The parcours might have been but Contador didn't exactly face strong competition.
He took a pull plenty of times, I was shocked. But I guess he knew they were so far behind it didn't matter.del1962 said:When he was with Keldermann he was never going to pull for him, I think he will be fine for Giro
Trentino showdown with Nibs.Jelantik said:Landa has few weeks before May starts to uplift his form. He wasn't that impressive IMHO. He was great on the first day, but slowly he got drop second by second. (yeah, yeah he was riding for Henao. But I expect him to be at least not too far from Henao). Is the Trentino next race before Giro? That should be another marker to see how his form improving.
He was last year 32 inthe ITT and 22 overall, he is this year 28 in the ITT and 12 in the overall, by riding less days than last yearand you say you expected more??Jelantik said:Landa has few weeks before May starts to uplift his form. He wasn't that impressive IMHO. He was great on the first day, but slowly he got drop second by second. (yeah, yeah he was riding for Henao. But I expect him to be at least not too far from Henao). Is the Trentino next race before Giro? That should be another marker to see how his form improving.
He is a better climb now than Andy's brother Frank ever dreamed of. Andy is still in another league as of now obviously, he was incredible. I think he showed in the Vuelta after his astonishing climbing display in Il Giro (could have been a better display if allowed) that he indeed is the real deal, altho Astana at that point really didnt care for him and Landa didnt care for them. I think it was obvious he lacked hella motivation in that race. I think he was instrumental in setting Aru up and his win on Els Cortal is a true grumpier worthy, he was incredibly that day. Like he was on the hardest mountains in Il Giro.rm7 said:I think this guy is a bit overrated at the moment.
He's without doubt a big talent (26 years old), but i've only seen him climb very well in one GT yet. He wasn't even there in the first moutain finish actually. A lot of riders in history rides well for one GT, and then we never see them reach the same level again.
I'm curious to see how he does with a whole team and being the captain. Can he handle the pressure etc.
I still think Nibali is the biggest favourite for the Giro, but I'm curious to see if Landa can challenge him for real. He'll have to drop him in the mountains because of the ITT's.
Landa a lot better climber than Frank Schleck could ever dream of? Have you forgot how good he actually was between 2008-2011?Valv.Piti said:He is a better climb now than Andy's brother Frank ever dreamed of. Andy is still in another league as of now obviously, he was incredible. I think he showed in the Vuelta after his astonishing climbing display in Il Giro (could have been a better display if allowed) that he indeed is the real deal, altho Astana at that point really didnt care for him and Landa didnt care for them. I think it was obvious he lacked hella motivation in that race. I think he was instrumental in setting Aru up and his win on Els Cortal is a true grumpier worthy, he was incredibly that day. Like he was on the hardest mountains in Il Giro.rm7 said:I think this guy is a bit overrated at the moment.
He's without doubt a big talent (26 years old), but i've only seen him climb very well in one GT yet. He wasn't even there in the first moutain finish actually. A lot of riders in history rides well for one GT, and then we never see them reach the same level again.
I'm curious to see how he does with a whole team and being the captain. Can he handle the pressure etc.
I still think Nibali is the biggest favourite for the Giro, but I'm curious to see if Landa can challenge him for real. He'll have to drop him in the mountains because of the ITT's.
Nibali is the favourite. Comfortably, but Landa and Valverde are ready, hopefully!
Yes, he was. In Abetone he was the 4th of the favourites and even attacked (and I may be wrong in this but I seem to remember that he even pulled a bit for Aru after he was caught) and lost time mainly in the final sprint to the line.rm7 said:He's without doubt a big talent (26 years old), but i've only seen him climb very well in one GT yet. He wasn't even there in the first moutain finish actually.
I definitely wont complain about a weak Sky gt team.JRanton said:So now no Sergio Henao, Intxausti and Konig for the Giro. Astana will probably have at least 5 climbers better than Sky's best domestique unless they move someone like Nieve or Poels from the Tour squad.
I would really like Sky to have at least one good climber, I dont think Sky's race tactics are nearly as destructive as some suggest (I for one really enjoy seeing stages like Ax-3 and PSM), but Landa will be in a position where he needs to gain several minutes on Valv and Nibali, so Sky could really need a few good domestique to tear it apart.Gigs_98 said:I definitely wont complain about a weak Sky gt team.JRanton said:So now no Sergio Henao, Intxausti and Konig for the Giro. Astana will probably have at least 5 climbers better than Sky's best domestique unless they move someone like Nieve or Poels from the Tour squad.![]()
Its funny, tho. Landa has won 2 stages that theoretically shouldn't suit him that much, at least not over a gruelling mountain stage - think Els Cortals or Aprica 2015. On the other hand, he faded when it really got nasty in the Basque Country, altho he tried something with Lopez (?) but he really didnt spend that much energy compared to the rest until the climb. Is it a trend, is Landa more explosive than I give him credit for or is a random to a lesser extent? I mean, he hasn't trained that well and all, might affect his long efforts, but not so much the shorter ones. I don't think this is a pattern and he should at least be as good at longer climbs, hopefully Trentino will show that.filipepc said:Impressive climber. Without racing is like this!!! Uau.
If valverde and Nibali want to win the giro they will need to destroy Landa where he is weak. He will beat them in the climbs.