Such a comment from a hater...Bad sprint from Pidcock and Mathieu who probably was sick. Luck merchant strikes again
Ugly for haters? For sure. Most people just appreciate another great edition of MSR thanks to the best rider of all times.Someone ended up gut punching Merckx cause the frustration got to big.
It's not something i would ever advocate for, but things can get ugly if the dominance continues and his (Pogacar) positive image starts to change.
And that too.MVP will be smashed on Carrefour de l'Arbre. Pogi is so much better right now.
Last year ganna closed the gap when Pog attacked and mvdp got a relatively free ride. This year ganna blew and mvdp had to close a gap to cover the nuclear attack. From that point on he looked like he was on the back foot. So a little bit of both it seems.I was only watching from the bottom of Poggio to the finish and then I haven’t been reading more about the race.
Did Van der Poel burn something extra on Cipressa or relaying way too much (/too hard) on the flat to Poggio or was he just way weaker than last year?
I think he was about as strong as last year, but this year he had some catching up to do right before the Cipressa, which they then rode even harder than last year, enough to put him slightly over the top imo.I was only watching from the bottom of Poggio to the finish and then I haven’t been reading more about the race.
Did Van der Poel burn something extra on Cipressa or relaying way too much (/too hard) on the flat to Poggio or was he just way weaker than last year?
Asterisked without Jan cristen
Mate what do you want? He changed his tactics to attack on a climb where no favorite had dared to attack in years. He changed his training regime to focus more on classics races when his team evidently wants him to focus on the tour above anything else. And even then he had to get lucky with his main rival not being at his best and barely winning in a photo finish. If he hadn't learned from previous failures he likely wouldn't have won again and he is still far from having an "insta win button" for this race.When in doubt, go harder. True learning experience.
The plan changed nothing except brute forcing with increasingly hilarious power advantages over the opposition.Mate what do you want? He changed his tactics to attack on a climb where no favorite had dared to attack in years. He changed his training regime to focus more on classics races when his team evidently wants him to focus on the tour above anything else. And even then he had to get lucky with his main rival not being at his best and barely winning in a photo finish. If he hadn't learned from previous failures he likely wouldn't have won again and he is still far from having an "insta win button" for this race.
I understand that you are annoyed that a rider you dislike won a race he hadn't yet won, but your criticism doesn't make any sense. He did what he was supposed to do and succeeded. If you are unhappy about that, so be it, but there is no need to lecture us for why we are supposed to be unhappy too.
Lol, he was 30 seconds behind with 3 km before hitting Cipressa.The plan changed nothing except brute forcing with increasingly hilarious power advantages over the opposition.
And fans can be happy, sure, but framing this as some story of overcoming some great adversity is just comical framing.
And the story doesn't get better when you see a lot of other riders ride around like they can never hope to win anyway.
But it’s not the same quality image we get from the drones as we do from the motos and heli shots. Good example is what we saw today and what we saw today and what was saw recently in the Olympics ski races. The technology will get there, probably very soon, Maybe you’re watching on your phone and haven’t noticed, but there is a definite decrease in picture quality from drone shots. They may be able to focus on a sweat droplet but that doesn’t matter to me as much as the image quality for my enjoyment.They have been able to provide images with pixel density to know if Wout and Pidcock shaved this morning. The price for a commercial drone has fallen by @75% in last few years. For less than @$20,000 usd to can buy a drone that can tell you from many hundred feet above if a baby has a pacifier in their mouth and what color it is..
Carlos and his dad are fans. He's friends with Pogacar and MatthewsLmao wtf is Carlos Sainz doing there
You... you... did see how Pogacar looked at the finish right??? Hardly luckBad sprint from Pidcock and Mathieu who probably was sick. Luck merchant strikes again
So let’s say the motocam guy/gal is eliminated with proficient drones—how is that going to eliminate the other 20-30 motos zooming around the course close to riders? Photographers, officials, cops, and in some races I’m pretty sure some VIPs are getting rides.And on balance, the obvious impact of a helicopter crash is far greater than any commercial drone. Upsides are way too many to list, just the number of motorcycles and vehicles that would be eliminated from race courses would outweigh anything that @30-40 years behind UCI would argue. It would be a budget and safety no brainer for UCI. Budget that has often multiple helicopters, camera crew, pilot, insurance, aviation fuel, obvious increase in risk and lack of flexibility are self evident. Many sports are using them currently.. It's absolutely amazing the cost to performance ratio that you can buy off the shelf. Many @$1-3000 dollar drones you could get off Amazon could ultimately save millions and increase public and rider safety.. If that's something UCI is thinking about..
A quality, capable motorcycle is @$20-30,000 plus equipment, crew, insurance, maintenance, fuel, limitations and logistics... UCI is still thinking about it, first things first, they are debating getting a microwave for the office..
Thank you. A few objective comments like this and Gigs's else one could be forgiven it was boring and terrible. Whatever we think of Pogi, today was not handed to him on a platter, he and UAE had to overcome a crash and loss of skin. Eventually MVDP had to be less than 100%. Kudos to Tom Pidcock for a great ride too.Holy crap what a bike race!
Just watched, incredible. Best race in a loooong time. Thrilling!
I haven't read the thread at all, so not sure what you're referring to, but...I mean it's MSR. It's of course boring for the first 240 k. I'd not be surprised if people were complaining, happens literally every race no matter what.Thank you. A few objective comments like this and Gigs's else one could be forgiven it was boring and terrible. Whatever we think of Pogi, today was not handed to him on a platter, he and UAE had to overcome a crash and loss of skin. Eventually MVDP had to be less than 100%. Kudos to Tom Pidcock for a great ride too.
Wow! Sounds like someone sees crashing, being almost caught before the finish, and winning by less than a wheel as something less than dominating.. Whatever Pogacar showed, Pidcock showed everyone that it's possible..Tadej looking really human..Nyet. Let's enjoy a great champion while we can. All careers come to a close.
It's definitely not going to do anything close, understand rolling enclosure and closed, semi closed race routes. Take all these early season races and classics.. Sure you are not going to reduce motorcycles by @75% but reduction overall by @20-25% is meaningful and in my opinion video from a drone would be superior in many ways from handheld motorcycle camera angle, and as significant, in skinny sections of many races through ancient streets that were made for carts pulled by animals in some cases. A drone doesn't need to slow down for a sharp corner, drones can avoid each other through onboard technology, motorcycles can't, they have to watch out for everything, everyone including each other.. Drones can stay out of the way in sections of the course where cars and motorcycles barely fit and don't fit when bicycles are present.. Paris Roubaix will be another example of were a drone... taking video, relaying information to race officials, staying out of the way, not endangering riders and fans will be clear, motorcycles and cars at Roubaix are less effective and more dangerous than other methods.. You still need motorcycles to shoooo the crazies off the race route as they step into the road in a Speedo or other stupid costume or run along with some goofy flag..you need an @300 kilo motorcycle to get those people out of the road...So let’s say the motocam guy/gal is eliminated with proficient drones—how is that going to eliminate the other 20-30 motos zooming around the course close to riders? Photographers, officials, cops, and in some races I’m pretty sure some VIPs are getting rides.
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Thank you. A few objective comments like this and Gigs's else one could be forgiven it was boring and terrible. Whatever we think of Pogi, today was not handed to him on a platter, he and UAE had to overcome a crash and loss of skin. Eventually MVDP had to be less than 100%. Kudos to Tom Pidcock for a great ride too.
