Milano - Sanremo 2024, one day monument, March 16

[Krzysztof_O]

UAE realize that beating big boys in the last 10 km is almost impossible. Short&shallow climbing, descending and sprint. MVP is better at all of them. There are also guys better at sprinting or descending. UAE really has to make the last part of the race hard: not just on climbs but also on flats. La Manie would help if ridden super hard so MVP suffocates a bit. An all out attack on Cipressa (catapulting Pog) is also a possible scenario. if not then brutal tempo there is guaranteed by UAE methinks.

 

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Interesting that VDP is convinced Pog attacks on the Cipressa.

he said more or less the complete opposite in the Gazzetta interview:

(gt) "On the Poggio it will be difficult to make a difference, but he [Pogacar] could do it. He looks super-impressive, but he has already demonstrated so much in the past that this is no longer shocking."

▶And if this time Tadej attacks on the Cipressa?

"Uff. It hasn't been seen for a long time, it's almost impossible. I would never do it. However...".

 

[DNP-Old]

What’s the wind like on Saturday? Because I feel like Colombo and Gontchenkov are going to have a problem.

 

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currently there's a slight tailwind forecast for the final part.

 

[DNP-Old]

currently there's a slight tailwind forecast for the final part.

Ok, that Cipressa record is definitely getting smashed. Cipressa, Poggio B2B seems impossible though.

 

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Ok, that Cipressa record is definitely getting smashed.

Matxin said that they want to go under 9 minutes, so that would be a 20s+ improvement

Milan-San Remo: UAE Team Emirates hint at Tadej Pogačar attack on the Cipressa

Sports manager Matxin Joxean Fernández calls out Van der Poel as the number one favourite

www.globalcyclingnetwork.com

imo UAE is too weak, though. They were struggling to get into position on time last year, and now the team is worse.

 

[Samamba]

Ok, that Cipressa record is definitely getting smashed. Cipressa, Poggio B2B seems impossible though.

With the amount of UAE guys actually openly saying they're gonna go hard on the Cipressa this might actually all be big bait.

On the other hand, doesnt really matter if other teams know or not ofcourse. It's not like everyone doesnt try to be in front there anyways.

 

[DNP-Old]

Nobody has ever come close to Colombo and Gontchenkov, not even the mythical pirate himself in 1999 despite insane moto pacing. It would be absolutely hilarious if we go sub 9:10.

 

[Netserk]

Nobody has ever come close to Colombo and Gontchenkov, not even the mythical pirate himself in 1999 despite insane moto pacing. It would be absolutely hilarious if we go sub 9:10.

@jens_attacks has a nice post about it: http://www.climbing-records.com/2015/03/march-23th-1996-colombo-gontchenkov.html

 

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the most important question is, will they go fast enough to escape a Bonifazio-like Cipressa downhill attack from Campenaerts and/or Beullens?

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[mou]

UAE has a simple tactic and that is Del Toro to break Cippresa and leave 20-25 people and among them Del Toro, Wellens, Pog then Del Toro pulls from the top of Cippresa to the bottom of the Poggio and takes over Wellens and in the last 1km attacks Pog so whoever survives, all other options are not realistic

 

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UAE has a simple tactic and that is Del Toro to break Cippresa

how, though? The way he raced in Tirreno, he will be on position 150 when entering the climb.

 

[DNP-Old]

how, though? The way he raced in Tirreno, he will be on position 150 when entering the climb.

I do agree, this team is lacking a Rowe type of rider whom you can blindly trust to deliver his teammates in the first 10 positions.

 

[Didinho]

the most important question is, will they go fast enough to escape a Bonifazio-like Cipressa downhill attack from Campenaerts and/or Beullens?

Wellens answered he can better focus on the climb.

Victor with a 68 tooth downhill masterclass incoming.

 

[Netserk]

UAE is generally a quite lopsided team. Full of strong riders with poor positioning and descending skills. It was Fisher-Black with Almeida on his wheel who lost contact with Plapp on the Châteauneuf descent and then had to chase afterwards, only for neither of the two being able to follow Cattaneo and Bouwman when they bridged the gap on Berre-les-Alpes.

 

[Slavique Nuke]

Last year almost every detail favoured MvdP, I doubt he will be that lucky again. Especially as his most loyal lackey, WvA, won't be in the race to drag him up half the climb.

Pogacar is likely to have a gap after Poggio. The question is whether he can maintain it on the descent. Last year's shitshow behind Ganna did not promise much success. So I wouldn't be surprised if some 2nd tier guy won the race.

 

[jono]

Last year almost every detail favoured MvdP, I doubt he will be that lucky again. Especially as his most loyal lackey, WvA, won't be in the race to drag him up half the climb.

I know we all remember Wout closing that small gap to Ganna in the final stretch of the Poggio, but over the totality of the climb he spent more time in Mathieu's wheel than vice versa.

 

[Max Rockatansky]

Nobody has ever come close to Colombo and Gontchenkov, not even the mythical pirate himself in 1999 despite insane moto pacing. It would be absolutely hilarious if we go sub 9:10.

It's still insane enough, if they do a time around 9:19.

2023:5,7 km@4,1%---9:45---average speed 35.08 km/h (80 riders peloton)
2022:5,7 km@4,1%---9:30---average speed 36.00 km/h (30 riders peloton)
1996:5,7 km@4,1%---9:19---average speed 36.71 km/h(Colombo-Gontchenkov)-RECORD

“Two years ago Davide Formolo did the climb in 9:30 and only 27 riders were left in the front group. Last year when it was 9:50, there were nearly 70 riders left. This year it’s possible to go under nine minutes. In my opinion, no more than 20 riders can do this. It is very complicated and there’s still 22km from the top of the climb but staying away from that point doesn’t just depend on Tadej but also his rivals. Full gas on the Cipressa, full gas to the Poggio, it’s a hard, hard race. but the plan is to win Milan-San Remo. Tadej is a super rider and we have plans for many situations,” he added.

Pogacar might be the only one in that peloton tomorrow, who can break the record. But then he will be on his own.

 

[Slavique Nuke]

I know we all remember Wout closing that small gap to Ganna in the final stretch of the Poggio, but over the totality of the climb he spent more time in Mathieu's wheel than vice versa.

Sitting behind your biggest rival in the middle of a large group is a completely different situation.

 

[Blanco]

@jens_attacks has a nice post about it: http://www.climbing-records.com/2015/03/march-23th-1996-colombo-gontchenkov.html

Wait, @jens_attacks is Mihai Simion then?Or did I get it wrong...

 

[SafeBet]

Wait, @jens_attacks is Mihai Simion then?Or did I get it wrong...

He is. Not sure he still reads the forum though.

Re Cipressa under 9 minutes. It's an insane time, I doubt 20 riders can do it.

 

[Netserk]

Team presentation is underway.

 

[Wyndbrook]

Maybe Strade was a dress rehearsal, bypasses all this fluff about Cipressa and Poggio.

 

[Unchained]

Del Toro only second Mexican to race Milan San Remo, Raul Alcala being the only other in race history

 

[Wyndbrook]

Del Toro only second Mexican to race Milan San Remo, Raul Alcala being the only other in race history

I remember him, Tour De Trump winner no less.