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So what's the logic behind the race design thread being stickied? It makes absolutely no sense. It could be argued it doesn't even belong in the road race forum. We made a separate forum when people started getting obsessed with the CQ thread but at least that was about real races. The race design thread is completely make-believe and has absolutely nothing to do with actual racing.
I'm a former moderator, I'm not trying to attack you guys, I just honestly would like to understand the logic if there is any. Usually there's a logical reason a thread is a sticky like a need to inform, to preemptively answer a common question or the like. There's really no need for a thread like that to be a sticky. What purpose does it serve? How does it help or improve the forum? The people who participate there can always find it - it's never several pages down.
And in response to a comment in my original thread, I don't have any knowledge of any previous beefs about stickies. I almost never come to this part of the forum as evidenced by my apparently mis-placed post. The fewer stickies, the better is almost always good forum protocol.
I'm a former moderator, I'm not trying to attack you guys, I just honestly would like to understand the logic if there is any. Usually there's a logical reason a thread is a sticky like a need to inform, to preemptively answer a common question or the like. There's really no need for a thread like that to be a sticky. What purpose does it serve? How does it help or improve the forum? The people who participate there can always find it - it's never several pages down.
And in response to a comment in my original thread, I don't have any knowledge of any previous beefs about stickies. I almost never come to this part of the forum as evidenced by my apparently mis-placed post. The fewer stickies, the better is almost always good forum protocol.
I must say that I Iove the moderators. Especially bandan. I got a month ban for doping talks and trolling in PRR (aka calling Alberto as Alpuerto) which of course is the least that I deserve. Moreover I would like to express my admiration for the increasing trend of banning Lemond fanbois. Peace and love 
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harryh said:I must say that I Iove the moderators. Especially bandan. I got a month ban for doping talks and trolling in PRR (aka calling Alberto as Alpuerto) which of course is the least that I deserve. Moreover I would like to express my admiration for the increasing trend of banning Lemond fanbois. Peace and love
Susan Westemeyer said:
I just want to let everyone know that Maxiton is no longer a moderator in the forums.
Please treat him with respect and abide by all forum rules.
Cheers
Please treat him with respect and abide by all forum rules.
Cheers
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Come back, Max, come back and post again as a regular poster! (Come back and join us filthy and unwashed masses again.)
Hats off to Maxiton for giving it a try, I know I wouldn't want this thankless (and unpaid) mod job.Irondan said:
Come back, Max, come back and post again as a regular poster! (Come back and join us filthy and unwashed masses again.
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Tricycle Rider said:Hats off to Maxiton for giving it a try, I know I wouldn't want this thankless (and unpaid) mod job.Irondan said:
Come back, Max, come back and post again as a regular poster! (Come back and join us filthy and unwashed masses again.
+1
snccdcno
BANNED
From one snooker fan to another, nothing but respect for Maxiton.
Hopefully all is good with you, fam.
Hopefully all is good with you, fam.
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i,m washed though
well said!Tricycle Rider said:Hats off to Maxiton for giving it a try, I know I wouldn't want this thankless (and unpaid) mod job.Irondan said:
Come back, Max, come back and post again as a regular poster! (Come back and join us filthy and unwashed masses again.
i,m washed though
pheee...eeew! max had been reet on my case..........
good member......too opionated to be mod
Mark L
good member......too opionated to be mod
Mark L
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Jspear said:Tricycle Rider said:Hats off to Maxiton for giving it a try, I know I wouldn't want this thankless (and unpaid) mod job.Irondan said:
Come back, Max, come back and post again as a regular poster! (Come back and join us filthy and unwashed masses again.
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Yep.
Well done Maxiton for giving it a go. Hope to see Maxiton back posting!
Tricycle Rider said:Hats off to Maxiton for giving it a try, I know I wouldn't want this thankless (and unpaid) mod job.Irondan said:
Come back, Max, come back and post again as a regular poster! (Come back and join us filthy and unwashed masses again.
Yep.
Well done Maxiton for giving it a go. Hope to see Maxiton back posting!
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Cheers
Cannibal72 said:Jspear said:Tricycle Rider said:Hats off to Maxiton for giving it a try, I know I wouldn't want this thankless (and unpaid) mod job.Irondan said:
Come back, Max, come back and post again as a regular poster! (Come back and join us filthy and unwashed masses again.
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chapeau for giving it a go, it's a tough job
Well said! Come back Maxiton we want you on the forumTricycle Rider said:Hats off to Maxiton for giving it a try, I know I wouldn't want this thankless (and unpaid) mod job.Irondan said:
Come back, Max, come back and post again as a regular poster! (Come back and join us filthy and unwashed masses again.
chapeau for giving it a go, it's a tough job 
A well done to the mods for clearing up that agenda driven nonsense in the Russian doping scandal thread.
What??? A newsworthy story that has got a lot of attention.
If you and hog wanted to post about Britain and doping, then all you had to do was take that drivel to the appropriate thread, like the "Brits don't dope" one or whatever, and have the echo chamber discussion you crave from it.
If you and hog wanted to post about Britain and doping, then all you had to do was take that drivel to the appropriate thread, like the "Brits don't dope" one or whatever, and have the echo chamber discussion you crave from it.
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otherwise, for sure, there would not be any reason to mock gooner and his agenda in the moderator thread.
it all makes sense now, right ? btw, thanks the hitch too ...
thank you mods for letting the hitch let us know that gooner is going to become a mod. good choice !The Hitch said:
otherwise, for sure, there would not be any reason to mock gooner and his agenda in the moderator thread.
it all makes sense now, right ? btw, thanks the hitch too ...
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Well some of us don't take the myopic view that Russian state doping is an isolated story that has absolutely nothing to do with the wider doping and political world.
We don't believe that everything happens in a vaccum.
For us every single doping story, is only part of the far larger battle between an elite of liars and cheats at the top of sports who control the media, the doping and the narrative, and a lower class of liars and cheats who have no power and find themselves at the mercy of the first group whenever a scapegoat is needed.
We don't care much for athletes being busted for asthma medication, or no name figure skaters being caught doping, because such busts mean next to nothing and have no impact on the wider system. Wake me up when someone with major sponsorship deals gets caught doping. Or even when Russia actually gets banned from the olympics.
But if that's too hard for you to understand, consider this story - https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/may/13/pressure-russia-rio-2016-olympics-uk-anti-doping-obstructed
Or consider the fact that the head of the World Anti doping agency is a brit.
Or consider the fact that the last country to host the olympics before Russia was the United Kingdom. And last year, the narrative was strongly pushed that Russia disgraced these games, "our own games" by evily conspiring to dope in them, the bastards!!!!!
No, I won't apologize for thinking that the Western "we are clean narrative" and the "Russia was state doping" narrative, are strongly linked.
And any time, any no name athlete or no name beurocrat get caught doping, I will always think of the big fish that are getting away with it.
I'd like to call your bluff out on the echo chamber comment though. The main "clinic" opinion on doping is that sport is rife with doping, at all levels, across all nationalities, and that anti doping is a sham which scapegoats unmarketable athletes while focusing all its effort on protecting high level popular media friendly ones.
This is the opinion that everyone who is mocked as being part of the "clinic" holds, and it is also coincidentally an opinion held by the handful of academics who have devoted their lives to a study of doping, and by anyone else who has done any research into the subject.
Do you disagree with this opinion? Do you want to challenge it?
I remember when digger asked you a question 4 times and you ignored it all 4 times.
We both know why you ignored that question. Will you do the same here?
PS, is it really drivel for hog to point out that David Millar is a liar? Is that, still, such an uncomfortable truth to admit to? That one of your own nation could be a liar?
gooner said:
Well some of us don't take the myopic view that Russian state doping is an isolated story that has absolutely nothing to do with the wider doping and political world.
We don't believe that everything happens in a vaccum.
For us every single doping story, is only part of the far larger battle between an elite of liars and cheats at the top of sports who control the media, the doping and the narrative, and a lower class of liars and cheats who have no power and find themselves at the mercy of the first group whenever a scapegoat is needed.
We don't care much for athletes being busted for asthma medication, or no name figure skaters being caught doping, because such busts mean next to nothing and have no impact on the wider system. Wake me up when someone with major sponsorship deals gets caught doping. Or even when Russia actually gets banned from the olympics.
But if that's too hard for you to understand, consider this story - https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/may/13/pressure-russia-rio-2016-olympics-uk-anti-doping-obstructed
Or consider the fact that the head of the World Anti doping agency is a brit.
Or consider the fact that the last country to host the olympics before Russia was the United Kingdom. And last year, the narrative was strongly pushed that Russia disgraced these games, "our own games" by evily conspiring to dope in them, the bastards!!!!!
No, I won't apologize for thinking that the Western "we are clean narrative" and the "Russia was state doping" narrative, are strongly linked.
And any time, any no name athlete or no name beurocrat get caught doping, I will always think of the big fish that are getting away with it.
I'd like to call your bluff out on the echo chamber comment though. The main "clinic" opinion on doping is that sport is rife with doping, at all levels, across all nationalities, and that anti doping is a sham which scapegoats unmarketable athletes while focusing all its effort on protecting high level popular media friendly ones.
This is the opinion that everyone who is mocked as being part of the "clinic" holds, and it is also coincidentally an opinion held by the handful of academics who have devoted their lives to a study of doping, and by anyone else who has done any research into the subject.
Do you disagree with this opinion? Do you want to challenge it?
I remember when digger asked you a question 4 times and you ignored it all 4 times.
We both know why you ignored that question. Will you do the same here?
PS, is it really drivel for hog to point out that David Millar is a liar? Is that, still, such an uncomfortable truth to admit to? That one of your own nation could be a liar?
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I was actually defending my friend the hog, who gooner had mocked in the previous post, but given your continued hard-on for me, I can see how you may have missed that one old friend
python said:
I was actually defending my friend the hog, who gooner had mocked in the previous post, but given your continued hard-on for me, I can see how you may have missed that one old friend
Just because the whistleblower happens to be FROM RUSSIA, doesn't mean that the people who were discussing it think doping doesn't occur elsewhere. You're adding arms and legs to things now.
There was a theme to that thread that had nothing to do with you and hog's agenda to British sport. Somehow I don't think you'd be saying it's tiresome news if it was British related.
It would be embraced by both of you.
And David Millar had nothing to do with that thread, so yes it was drivel in the context of the thread's subject. Millar is not "one of my nation" either.
There was a theme to that thread that had nothing to do with you and hog's agenda to British sport. Somehow I don't think you'd be saying it's tiresome news if it was British related.
It would be embraced by both of you.
And David Millar had nothing to do with that thread, so yes it was drivel in the context of the thread's subject. Millar is not "one of my nation" either.
Very carefully chosen words, I notice.gooner said:
No, "people" in general, who were discussing it might not think that doping doesn't occur elsewhere.
But YOU, well your account has for years been dedicated to promoting the idea that Brits don't dope
So save us the sleight of hand.
Err duh. Of course we would. I just said so myself in the previous post
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Britain holds the presidency of the iaaf, the uci and Wada and hosted the "clean Olympics"
We would absolutely embrace a scandal that might actually damage someone at the top, rather than s few no name scapegoats. Logic is logic.
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