Susan Westemeyer said:
The Hitch was banned for receiving his second strike when he called for crashes to be arranged for certain riders.
Susan
Dear Mods.
I wasn’t calling for crashes to be arranged. What kind of a monster do you think I am.
I made a joke, a pretty light one by forum standards, that if the individual who ruined Samus Tour wants forgiveness he should take out Samus opponents. It is a PG rated joke. Cartoons for kids have jokes such as “ If I told you I would have to kill you”. No one ever believes that the speaker is making death threats against the listener. In the same manner, if one reads my post, I just don’t see how it can be interpreted as a call to attack riders.
The point was that I don’t think the individual deserves forvgiveness, rather than that I believe said individual should turn up to Paris with a baseball bat and knock out half the peloton.
Im not attacking the mods, and I can accept that my first strike was deserved. I can also accept the one day ban even though I think it was a great misunderstanding, but I would ask for the mods to take a second look at the post (if you still have it) read it, decide whether the wording really implies im trying to cause my crash, and hopefully, if the decision is made that it was a misunderstanding, bring me back to strike 1 as right now on strike 2 im risking a month ban for any slight misunderstanding.
To reiiterate, NO WAY IN HELL was it a call to arrange crashes for riders and Im shocked that anyone could interpret it that way.
Secondly I would like to point out that my post DID NOT break any of the rules outlined in either the rules thread -
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=2824 , nor in the TDF rules thread
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=14295
Since my first strike Ive double checked over all my posts to make sure im not breaking any rules, precisely because I did not want a ban during the Tour. The post in the general news thread was no different. I read over it, made sure no rules were broken and waited for maybe a similar joke responce from another poster.
It would also be a stretch to argue that I was breaking the common sence standard.“ When in doubt, let common sense be your guide”.
Ive seen plenty of posts by posters making serious wishes for riders to crash. My post was a joke, and no serious reading of it could suggest otherwise, but there was absolutely nothing in CNF history to suggest it is against the rules to wish riders ill, joke or no joke. Not only in the clinic but I also remember this example.
ingsve said:
I hope he crashes and breaks a few bones so he'll be out for a year or two.
The same poster also made a joke about how Soler needs to start crashing to help his fantasy cycling team, the day before you know what. Everyone knew that was a joke. No one got banned. I had no reason to believe a joke about causing Schleck to lose time was going to get me any kind of warning yet alone ban.
Common sence told me that if wishing riders broken bones is ok, joking about a spectator taking them out, will easily pass.
So in other words there seems to now be a grey area where actually the rules don’t mean much because posts that don’t break any rules can now get people 1 month bans, or at least in my case since I have 2 strikes.
Thank you for your time.
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Timmy-loves-Rabo said:
ryo, pistle, hitch.. surprised I have been done yet
gotta love july
Comparing me to Pisti and Ryo is a far worse crime than making a joke about forgiveness.
Worth at least a strike.
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