Moderators

[veganrob]

The point as far as I see it is, no mod should ever publicly call a member of the forum a "troll" when closing their thread.

If a moderator has comment to make such as that when closing a thread they should make it privately and politely in private. Not publicly call them a troll, a spammer and issue a public warning.

You need to read Parullo's comment again. In no way did he call any forum member a troll. He said the thread could be considered trolling. Big difference. Gosh , so sensitive.
Maybe Parullo should have just moved thread to racing. Should not have made comments about trolling, even though it appeared to be a total troll and was in the wrong place to begin with. I'm giving him the benefit .
Parullo has always been fair as far as I am concerned even before he became a mod. Thankless job IMO but nice of him to do it. I also have no problem with any of the mods posting their opinions in any threads. If anything they let things get out of hand sometimes.


Can't wait for the season to begin.

 

[martinvickers]

So, you want the mod to desist from comment (which you call baiting) but you are happy to continue to post and suggest that more was said through private mail?

I requested the mod to desist from commenting TO ME, or TO MY POSTS, pending resolution of a formal compaint. I actually did it privately first, and he basically refused and began baiting in this thread. Only then did I repeat the request publically. Frankly, given his behaviour, I've been downright civilised about it.

My reply was written to you, not him. And I don't suggest it - i state it outright, because it's fact.

Mellows comment? Was that the one where you put it in the Clinic because it would get moved there anyway?! That comment.

If so, then that shows you deliberately put it in the wrong section.
And then there's your comments, "couldn't resist" etc.
Your trolling thread was closed for trolling.

No, it shows that I know something is controversial. No more. no less.

I'm sorry, but recognising that some members of the Clinic will get their panties in a twist doesn't make me responsible for it. I posted legitimate news about a controversial rider - specifically in the Clinic to AVOID it being the source of infractions elsewhere, and made NO COMMENT on the news itself to invite responses, only noting, with an attempt at humour, that the news will not be universally applauded.

No sensible defintion of trolling can be that wide.

As for "closed for trolling", i'm pretty sure I know exactly why it was closed, and trust the matter will be resolved in the near future.

 

[martinvickers]

You need to read Parullo's comment again. .

It was edited after the event by Susan. The current thread is not the original.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

I won't accept bullying, harrassment, bias or a mod abusing his powers out of spite. No. Sorry, but No.

Okay, in that case, if you feel like that you have a point. Fight for your right.

But, do not overdo it. Let us just be annoyed over Sky/Astana/other Russians and the clean team of Vaughters!

 

[veganrob]

It was edited after the event by Susan. The current thread is not the original.

I did miss the original, only what The Game posted. Sorry.

 

[martinvickers]

I did miss the original, only what The Game posted. Sorry.

Susan put in the edit, which significantly softens the post. Why she did that long after th epost was closed she'll have to explain, because I can't.

In addition, my complaint only occurred after a number of private messages.

 

[Parrulo]

susan didn't edit what the game posted which is what veganrob read, so he did read the original.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

No, it shows that I know something is controversial. No more. no less.

I'm sorry, but recognising that some members of the Clinic will get their panties in a twist doesn't make me responsible for it. I posted legitimate news about a controversial rider - specifically in the Clinic to AVOID it being the source of infractions elsewhere, and made NO COMMENT on the news itself to invite responses, only noting, with an attempt at humour, that the news will not be universally applauded.

No sensible defintion of trolling can be that wide.

As for "closed for trolling", i'm pretty sure I know exactly why it was closed, and trust the matter will be resolved in the near future.

So, you knew that it would cause controversy.
But you went ahead and posted it anyway, in The Clinic. Actually yes, that does make you "responsible" - you knew what you were doing.

 

[martinvickers]

So, you knew that it would cause controversy.
But you went ahead and posted it anyway, in The Clinic. Actually yes, that does make you "responsible" - you knew what you were doing.

Bullsh*T.

ANYTHING, absolutely anything posted in the Clinic causes controversy - it's the nature of the bloody place.

This is a complete stretch, Dr.

 

[martinvickers]

susan didn't edit what the game posted which is what veganrob read, so he did read the original.

Susan edited what you posted.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Bullsh*T.

ANYTHING, absolutely anything posted in the Clinic causes controversy - it's the nature of the bloody place.

This is a complete stretch, Dr.

Well if that is so, then why did you did you state that you knew it would be "controversial" - that should be self evident?
If you think everything posted in the Clinic is "controversial" then why put your wonderful thread there?

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Everybody want to just take a deep breath and chill out?

This is an internet forum, folks -- nothing earth-shakingly important.

As MartinVickers said (and I recommend he take his own advice here), don't get your knickers in a twist about it.

Susan

 

[martinvickers]

Well if that is so, then why did you did you state that you knew it would be "controversial" - that should be self evident?

Are you denying it? Seriously?

If you think everything posted in the Clinic is "controversial" then why put your wonderful thread there?

Because -

a) it's news and worth of mention - It is simply silly to suggest otherwise

b) it's almost certain, given this forum, to quickly become a discussion on whether he OUGHT to have been knighted - almost immediately involving allegations or insinuations of doping.

That's just fact, like it or not.

So, to avoid a series of infractions elsewhere, I put it in the forum where such discussions don't tend to infractions, and I 'apologised' to both 'sides' in faitly humourous way, to acknowledge that.

I did not give my own opinion.

I did not bait either side. I posted news, acknowledged it was controversial (are you suggesting it wasn't??), posted in the forum best equipped to handle the controversy and made a lame joke. No more. no less.

Now, if it ought to be moved. fine.

If it ought to be closed. Fair enough. I disagree, but whatever, no problem.

But that is not what happened, and not what my complaint is about - and Parrulo knows it.

 

[TheGame]

The original post

"this is pure spam and could even be considered trolling, consider yourself warned.

/thread closed"

agree it said considered.

 

[martinvickers]

Everybody want to just take a deep breath and chill out?

This is an internet forum, folks -- nothing earth-shakingly important.

As MartinVickers said (and I recommend he take his own advice here), don't get your knickers in a twist about it.

Susan

It's not about the forum. That's fine.

It's about a mod's abuse. that's not.

By the way is "chill out" an instruction or order from a moderator which you intend to police by way of ban if unobeyed??

Just so i know exactly how much you want me to shut up...

 

[martinvickers]

The original post

"this is pure spam and could even be considered trolling, consider yourself warned.

/thread closed"

agree it said considered.

Thank you : the "pure spam" part, (which was nonsense), was editted out, AFTER the thread was closed. Why?

In my view, to protect the mod. Dishonest.

And why is Parrulo now trying to claim the original thread was not editted when it clearly was?

again, dishonest.

 

[Froome19]

And why is Parrulo now trying to claim the original thread was not editted when it clearly was?

again, dishonest.

I do not think Parrulo is trying to claim that tbh.. just claiming that The Game's post was not edited which is was not.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

I must say I did not understand the 'spam' part at the time, but, aside of the possible personal messages, I really see nothing in it.

Come on Vickers, put it a rest.

 

[Froome19]

And why is Parrulo now trying to claim the original thread was not editted when it clearly was?

again, dishonest.

If you are referring to this?

susan didn't edit what the game posted which is what veganrob read, so he did read the original.

Then I must admit that he is is referring to The Game's post which was indeed unedited by Susan.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Are you denying it? Seriously?

Yes - not everything in the Clinic is controversial.
But if YOU think it is, why then post your thread there?! Which you answer:

Because -

a) it's news and worth of mention - It is simply silly to suggest otherwise

b) it's almost certain, given this forum, to quickly become a discussion on whether he OUGHT to have been knighted - almost immediately involving allegations or insinuations of doping.

That's just fact, like it or not.

So, to avoid a series of infractions elsewhere, I put it in the forum where such discussions don't tend to infractions, and I 'apologised' to both 'sides' in faitly humourous way, to acknowledge that.

I did not give my own opinion.

I did not bait either side. I posted news, acknowledged it was controversial (are you suggesting it wasn't??), posted in the forum best equipped to handle the controversy and made a lame joke. No more. no less.

Now, if it ought to be moved. fine.

If it ought to be closed. Fair enough. I disagree, but whatever, no problem.

But that is not what happened, and not what my complaint is about - and Parrulo knows it.

See, you didn't post news - you opened a new thread, what was wrong with a mention in any of the other BW threads?
You opened a thread to troll,and it was rightly closed.

 

[martinvickers]

I must say I did not understand the 'spam' part at the time, but, aside of the possible personal messages, I really see nothing in it.

Come on Vickers, put it a rest.

Sorry, FGL, no, I won't.

The mod made a threat, indeed several, out of spite. i'm not having it. and susan then edited the original post to protect him. I consider that dishonest, although she may persuade me otherwise. But if not, I'm not having that either.

I await resolution.

 

[martinvickers]

Yes - not everything in the Clinic is controversial.
But if YOU think it is, why then post your thread there?! Which you answer:

See, you didn't post news - you opened a new thread, what was wrong with a mention in any of the other BW threads?

New news, new thread. What so bl**dy wrong with that? Ridiculous argument, Dr.

You opened a thread to troll,and it was rightly closed.

Bullsh*t. Repeating the stupid accusation doesn't make it any better.

you didn't post news

I pretty obviously did. I even linked to the BBC News website. Or is a knighthood for wiggins not news? really?

 

[martinvickers]

If you are referring to this?


Then I must admit that he is is referring to The Game's post which was indeed unedited by Susan.

The text the Game quoted was edited in the original forum, go and check for yourself.

 

[Froome19]

The text the Game quoted was edited in the original forum, go and check for yourself.

This is what The Game quoted yesterday:

this is pure spam and could even be considered trolling, consider yourself warned.

/thread closed

 

[Benotti69]

Jeez 'Doper gets a knighthood' thread gets closed and someone cant take it! Oh dear what a fan!