Moderators

[Martin318is]

The behaviour that warning referenced was specific to that one thread and the preceeding 10 or so posts that were decending into... well, less said the better.

You are correct about the idea of making warnings like that more public should they be across more than one thread and not be directly reacting to current events. Watch this space.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

The problem is that no one actually reads stickies like that.

Susan

 

[auscyclefan94]

If there is an unfair descision, Can there be an appeals board to resolve disputes and possible unfair suspensions?

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

If there is an unfair descision, Can there be an appeals board to resolve disputes and possible unfair suspensions?

No.

Susan

 

[Barrus]

The problem is that no one actually reads stickies like that.

Susan

but at least you can point to it, that they should know, and answer in such a manner if people ask why they or others are banned.
It grants some clarity and transparency

 

[Ferminal]

If there is an unfair descision, Can there be an appeals board to resolve disputes and possible unfair suspensions?

How about accepting that everyone here is guests of CN/Future Publishing Ltd and that all decisions made by staff or those representing them are final.

Moderating is hard enough without people whinging about the decisions they make.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

No.

Susan

Well could they be allowed start a thread and whinge about it instead?

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Well could they be allowed start a thread and whinge about it instead?

Isn't that what this thread is?

Susan

 

[Anonymous]

How about accepting that everyone here is guests of CN/Future Publishing Ltd and that all decisions made by staff or those representing them are final.

Moderating is hard enough without people whinging about the decisions they make.

Yes.

And remember that this is a message board. It's not life or death.

Some perspective would be a good thing.

 

[auscyclefan94]

No.

Susan

A stern no! I was joking Susan! Don't see how I was having a "whinge" as such but bringing up a point Susan.

 

[Hugh Januss]

A stern no! I was joking Susan! Don't see how I was having a "whinge" as such but bringing up a point Susan.

You were bringing up two points, really. One point is you are whinging and the other is

Originally Posted by auscyclefan94
If there is an unfair descision

you don't know how to spell decision.

 

[BroDeal]

you don't know how to spell decision.

That could be the Australian way to spell it. They, much like the Brits, spell all sorts of words wrong.

Usually we forgive them because of the cool accents.

 

[auscyclefan94]

You were bringing up two points, really. One point is you are whinging and the other is you don't know how to spell decision.

Wel padon me! it is a forum an I dont give a rats ars if i dont spel corectly!

Go take a long walk on a short bridge!

 

[auscyclefan94]

That could be the Australian way to spell it. They, much like the Brits, spell all sorts of words wrong.

Usually we forgive them because of the cool accents.

Shouldn't it be "their" cool accents?

 

[Francois the Postman]

The problem is that no one actually reads stickies like that.

Susan

Susan, why is the "reply to thread" page not used to get the message that certain posts are simply not tolerated here.

It's the one page we all use to submit a post, and it would be VERY simple to code a very clear and eye catching warning "DO not..." message into it. I have seen it on many forums as the obvious place to remind people.

You can pretty much start posting here without ever really reading any of the guidelines, and the sticky "system" is far too invisible.

I know there will several folk who will ignore it, but they were gonna do it anyway, and at least they don't have any excuse left when they get slapped on their fingers. But it might be an effective way to stop others engaging with them, and pointing the correct course of action to stop the trolling and baiting.

It is nice to see moderators becoming more engaged, but a harsh warning on one page in a 5000+ thread would depend on people reading all the posts in that thread. A simple hard-coded warning at he point of entering ALL posts would be far far more effective IMO.

 

[180mmCrank]

Susan, why is the "reply to thread" page not used to get the message that certain posts are simply not tolerated here.

It's the one page we all use to submit a post, and it would be VERY simple to code a very clear and eye catching warning "DO not..." message into it. I have seen it on many forums as the obvious place to remind people.

You can pretty much start posting here without ever really reading any of the guidelines, and the sticky "system" is far too invisible.

I know there will several folk who will ignore it, but they were gonna do it anyway, and at least they don't have any excuse left when they get slapped on their fingers. But it might be an effective way to stop others engaging with them, and pointing the correct course of action to stop the trolling and baiting.

It is nice to see moderators becoming more engaged, but a harsh warning on one page in a 5000+ thread would depend on people reading all the posts in that thread. A simple hard-coded warning at he point of entering ALL posts would be far far more effective IMO.

Those posters who are making offensive or innappropriate posts are now getting warned and given infractions more regularly and more consistently. For a while not all moderators had the ability or inclination to do this.

My own view is that if I am regular member who makes sensible posts I shouldn't have to read WARNINGs and guidelines all the time telling me to be civil.

I may be missing something here and please keep the feedback coming we are trying to get this right and I do think we are getting a little bit better.

Cheers

Terry

 

[Anonymous]

BRAVO....

She Devil/BPC/Arbiter was banned LESS THAN 3 MINUTES after a post on the now closed WSJ thread.

The Mods here deserve a major round of applause. Very well done indeed.

 

[Anonymous]

BRAVO....

She Devil/BPC/Arbiter was banned LESS THAN 3 MINUTES after a post on the now closed WSJ thread.

The Mods here deserve a major round of applause. Very well done indeed.

i think the members deserve a round of applause for finally being mature enough to report instead of arguing

 

[auscyclefan94]

BRAVO....

She Devil/BPC/Arbiter was banned LESS THAN 3 MINUTES after a post on the now closed WSJ thread.

The Mods here deserve a major round of applause. Very well done indeed.

For once!!!!!

 

[auscyclefan94]

BRAVO....

She Devil/BPC/Arbiter was banned LESS THAN 3 MINUTES after a post on the now closed WSJ thread.

The Mods here deserve a major round of applause. Very well done indeed.

We need to encourage such an action by moderators!

 

[WonderLance]

I got a warning once and I cried and cryed and I wrote lots of anrgy messages to the people on this board who pick on me because they do not like my favorite rider. I'm over it now and i only post happy constructive pieces of information.

 

[auscyclefan94]

I got a warning once and I cried and cryed and I wrote lots of anrgy messages to the people on this board who pick on me because they do not like my favorite rider. I'm over it now and i only post happy constructive pieces of information.

Then we are two of a kind! It is "cried" not "cryed".

 

[Anonymous]

..... seriously need to get a ****ing grip

I have just had a warning for absolutely nothing and a nice patronising reminder of the rules of the forum..

**** right off!

 

[Big GMaC]

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=244984&postcount=21
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=243953&postcount=5312

Doping? Outside the Clinic?

This is one poster I found. In 2 minutes.

Out of line to Ban Dim.

You cannot control the real problems and you go and ban one of the best contributors to the forum.

Disgrace.

I am sure EVERYONE has mentioned doping outside the clinic in someway.

Ban them all?

You can't ban them all, just like the UCI can't ban all the dopers. Because that would mean banning all the riders.

 

[boredone]

Thanks gmac but to be clear i was banned for calling 180mm A patronising ***.

And now after receiving a violation for discussing doping (which i didnt) in the road forum, and kicking off about it I have been banned.
!

When i used a different name to logon to the forum I did it to do two things, put that post up, and also PM you to try and enter into discussion with you. You could not even give me the courtesy to reply to my pm to you regarding your decision to ban me.

Ok. the initial warning, i feel was wrong, I did not discuss doping, i was merely joking about what paul and phil would say in response to the question "what would paul and phil say about lance finishing 10th"

Ok, maybe i should not have called you a sarcastic *** and said the ban was out of order publicly, maybe i should have pm'd you, but i was ****ed off.

Giving me an immediate ban (whoever gave it), without even entering into conversation with me about what I had said, without even warning me that if i said anything further, i think is out of order. I should have been warned that a ban was possible.

Second, when i then came back and pm'd you, you could have at least replied (although i now understand that account was banned by another mod without you having the chance to reply).

Que Sera.

please do not delete this post. Ban this account if you like, but dont go deleting what i think is a perfectly fair thing to say.

I still believe the warning was wrong, maybe i shouldnt have called you a ****, but you shouldnt have then banned me without even a warning.

As a point, if you had pm'd me about my insult i would have deleted it.

Edit: Thank you for your pm, i now know the difference between a warning and infraction (i think). I still think a ban without warning for insulting a mod was insane. I also think the infractions are very badly worded. A pm saying "dim, do us a favour and dont mention doping in the road forum, consider this a warning" would have worked. Standardised infractions going on about observing forum rules, really get peoples backs up. Que Sera.

A mod can ban this account now, BUt there is no real reason to delete this post unless you like censoring people.