Alpe d'Huez said:Just a note: I posted a note in the mod forum asking for an explanation why the BoB thread was removed. I only know so far that recently new ownership took over the site. I do not know their rationale, or thinking. I do know a few things though:
This was without question the most popular thread on the entire forum. That equals traffic, which equals advertising, which equals money.
There was nothing offensive in the thread. In the past photos were included of women from the backside with no under garments, we deleted and banned those.
Nearly every photo was professionally shot. Many of the photos were of women wearing regular cycling clothing, many of them professional cyclists or amateur racers. Some were nostalgic looking. Some were of famous people.
The vast majority of the photos were no more offensive, or of women no more or less scantily clad, than what you would see in any woman's magazine today, aimed at female readers (Cosmo, Allure, etc). I would even make the argument that nearly every one of those photos are photoshopped, and thus present a dangerous view of what a women should look like, while photos of healthy women on bicycles is a positive thing for women to aspire to.
I spend less time than I did in the past as a mod. If this thread is removed permanently, like many of you, I'll spend even less time here without question.
Scott SoCal said:Alpe d'Huez said:Just a note: I posted a note in the mod forum asking for an explanation why the BoB thread was removed. I only know so far that recently new ownership took over the site. I do not know their rationale, or thinking. I do know a few things though:
This was without question the most popular thread on the entire forum. That equals traffic, which equals advertising, which equals money.
There was nothing offensive in the thread. In the past photos were included of women from the backside with no under garments, we deleted and banned those.
Nearly every photo was professionally shot. Many of the photos were of women wearing regular cycling clothing, many of them professional cyclists or amateur racers. Some were nostalgic looking. Some were of famous people.
The vast majority of the photos were no more offensive, or of women no more or less scantily clad, than what you would see in any woman's magazine today, aimed at female readers (Cosmo, Allure, etc). I would even make the argument that nearly every one of those photos are photoshopped, and thus present a dangerous view of what a women should look like, while photos of healthy women on bicycles is a positive thing for women to aspire to.
I spend less time than I did in the past as a mod. If this thread is removed permanently, like many of you, I'll spend even less time here without question.
Post of the year.
Removing the thread is a solution to a non-existent problem. PC run amok. Again.
All this talk about how respectful and healthy the thread was, while ignoring that it was called Babes on Bikes. Delicious whitewashing.Alpe d'Huez said:Just a note: I posted a note in the mod forum asking for an explanation why the BoB thread was removed. I only know so far that recently new ownership took over the site. I do not know their rationale, or thinking. I do know a few things though:
This was without question the most popular thread on the entire forum. That equals traffic, which equals advertising, which equals money.
There was nothing offensive in the thread. In the past photos were included of women from the backside with no under garments, we deleted and banned those.
Nearly every photo was professionally shot. Many of the photos were of women wearing regular cycling clothing, many of them professional cyclists or amateur racers. Some were nostalgic looking. Some were of famous people.
The vast majority of the photos were no more offensive, or of women no more or less scantily clad, than what you would see in any woman's magazine today, aimed at female readers (Cosmo, Allure, etc). I would even make the argument that nearly every one of those photos are photoshopped, and thus present a dangerous view of what a women should look like, while photos of healthy women on bicycles is a positive thing for women to aspire to.
I spend less time than I did in the past as a mod. If this thread is removed permanently, like many of you, I'll spend even less time here without question.
On the contrary, if you do a similar Google search, you can find plenty of women's groups, lead by women, who go by that, or similar names.hrotha said:All this talk about how respectful and healthy the thread was, while ignoring that it was called Babes on Bikes. Delicious whitewashing.![]()
Alpe d'Huez said:On the contrary, if you do a similar Google search, you can find plenty of women's groups, lead by women, who go by that, or similar names.hrotha said:All this talk about how respectful and healthy the thread was, while ignoring that it was called Babes on Bikes. Delicious whitewashing.![]()
So, is it derogatory if men use the phrase, or just term 'babe" out of admiration, but okay if women use it?
Alpe d'Huez said:On the contrary, if you do a similar Google search, you can find plenty of women's groups, lead by women, who go by that, or similar names.hrotha said:All this talk about how respectful and healthy the thread was, while ignoring that it was called Babes on Bikes. Delicious whitewashing.![]()
So, is it derogatory if men use the phrase, or just term 'babe" out of admiration, but okay if women use it?
you are not wrong. imo, it's a typical result of differences in our tastes, views, definitions...Scott SoCal said:Alpe d'Huez said:On the contrary, if you do a similar Google search, you can find plenty of women's groups, lead by women, who go by that, or similar names.hrotha said:All this talk about how respectful and healthy the thread was, while ignoring that it was called Babes on Bikes. Delicious whitewashing.![]()
So, is it derogatory if men use the phrase, or just term 'babe" out of admiration, but okay if women use it?
I'd guess no one ever bothered to ask the ladies. Just a bunch of uptight dudes worried about their own shadow.
Maybe I'm wrong.
What kind of a world is it when I completely agree with python.python said:you are not wrong. imo, it's a typical result of differences in our tastes, views, definitions...Scott SoCal said:Alpe d'Huez said:On the contrary, if you do a similar Google search, you can find plenty of women's groups, lead by women, who go by that, or similar names.hrotha said:All this talk about how respectful and healthy the thread was, while ignoring that it was called Babes on Bikes. Delicious whitewashing.![]()
So, is it derogatory if men use the phrase, or just term 'babe" out of admiration, but okay if women use it?
I'd guess no one ever bothered to ask the ladies. Just a bunch of uptight dudes worried about their own shadow.
Maybe I'm wrong.
that said, i never cared for the bob thread. cant recall posting there and only occasionally clicking. still, while the thread deemed mildly sexist (though nothing, as alpe said, we dont find in mass media) i can understand that some, women included, would celebrate the beauty of human body.
it is also true that the owners are completely within their right to regulate the content. however, i seriously doubt that banning a thread can in any way contribute tangibly to the stated noble goal of improving the image of female cycling.
i agree with one scott comment- it was a solution to an in-existing problem. if it was a porn, yea i can see the move, but it wasn't b/c watchful mods excized it timely.
Hugh Januss said:What kind of a world is it when I completely agree with python.python said:you are not wrong. imo, it's a typical result of differences in our tastes, views, definitions...Scott SoCal said:Alpe d'Huez said:On the contrary, if you do a similar Google search, you can find plenty of women's groups, lead by women, who go by that, or similar names.hrotha said:All this talk about how respectful and healthy the thread was, while ignoring that it was called Babes on Bikes. Delicious whitewashing.![]()
So, is it derogatory if men use the phrase, or just term 'babe" out of admiration, but okay if women use it?
I'd guess no one ever bothered to ask the ladies. Just a bunch of uptight dudes worried about their own shadow.
Maybe I'm wrong.
that said, i never cared for the bob thread. cant recall posting there and only occasionally clicking. still, while the thread deemed mildly sexist (though nothing, as alpe said, we dont find in mass media) i can understand that some, women included, would celebrate the beauty of human body.
it is also true that the owners are completely within their right to regulate the content. however, i seriously doubt that banning a thread can in any way contribute tangibly to the stated noble goal of improving the image of female cycling.
i agree with one scott comment- it was a solution to an in-existing problem. if it was a porn, yea i can see the move, but it wasn't b/c watchful mods excized it timely.
Let alone scott.
Irondan said:This all started because of one uptight person sending an email to the website main office, maybe some emails by the other side would give them some perspective? Idk....
Well well Well.blutto said:Irondan said:This all started because of one uptight person sending an email to the website main office, maybe some emails by the other side would give them some perspective? Idk....
....many thanks for that useful bit of info....
Cheers
I wasn't told if it was or wasn't, but I'm assuming it was.Glenn_Wilson said:Well well Well.blutto said:Irondan said:This all started because of one uptight person sending an email to the website main office, maybe some emails by the other side would give them some perspective? Idk....
....many thanks for that useful bit of info....
Cheers
Must have been our friend of the forum.
Same here. I realize you were not told and I would be surprised anyone would be told. I just was guessing.Irondan said:I wasn't told if it was or wasn't, but I'm assuming it was.Glenn_Wilson said:Well well Well.blutto said:Irondan said:This all started because of one uptight person sending an email to the website main office, maybe some emails by the other side would give them some perspective? Idk....
....many thanks for that useful bit of info....
Cheers
Must have been our friend of the forum.
Scott, Alpe, thanks for the memories. I certainly will be spending a whole lot less time here. At times it's been a rocky road, but all in all, it was a bunch of fun. Ciao!Scott SoCal said:Alpe d'Huez said:Just a note: I posted a note in the mod forum asking for an explanation why the BoB thread was removed. I only know so far that recently new ownership took over the site. I do not know their rationale, or thinking. I do know a few things though:
This was without question the most popular thread on the entire forum. That equals traffic, which equals advertising, which equals money.
There was nothing offensive in the thread. In the past photos were included of women from the backside with no under garments, we deleted and banned those.
Nearly every photo was professionally shot. Many of the photos were of women wearing regular cycling clothing, many of them professional cyclists or amateur racers. Some were nostalgic looking. Some were of famous people.
The vast majority of the photos were no more offensive, or of women no more or less scantily clad, than what you would see in any woman's magazine today, aimed at female readers (Cosmo, Allure, etc). I would even make the argument that nearly every one of those photos are photoshopped, and thus present a dangerous view of what a women should look like, while photos of healthy women on bicycles is a positive thing for women to aspire to.
I spend less time than I did in the past as a mod. If this thread is removed permanently, like many of you, I'll spend even less time here without question.
Post of the year.
Removing the thread is a solution to a non-existent problem. PC run amok. Again.
everytime a new owner takes over the website suffers.nowhereman said:Scott, Alpe, thanks for the memories. I certainly will be spending a whole lot less time here. At times it's been a rocky road, but all in all, it was a bunch of fun. Ciao!Scott SoCal said:Alpe d'Huez said:Just a note: I posted a note in the mod forum asking for an explanation why the BoB thread was removed. I only know so far that recently new ownership took over the site. I do not know their rationale, or thinking. I do know a few things though:
This was without question the most popular thread on the entire forum. That equals traffic, which equals advertising, which equals money.
There was nothing offensive in the thread. In the past photos were included of women from the backside with no under garments, we deleted and banned those.
Nearly every photo was professionally shot. Many of the photos were of women wearing regular cycling clothing, many of them professional cyclists or amateur racers. Some were nostalgic looking. Some were of famous people.
The vast majority of the photos were no more offensive, or of women no more or less scantily clad, than what you would see in any woman's magazine today, aimed at female readers (Cosmo, Allure, etc). I would even make the argument that nearly every one of those photos are photoshopped, and thus present a dangerous view of what a women should look like, while photos of healthy women on bicycles is a positive thing for women to aspire to.
I spend less time than I did in the past as a mod. If this thread is removed permanently, like many of you, I'll spend even less time here without question.
Post of the year.
Removing the thread is a solution to a non-existent problem. PC run amok. Again.
Scott, Alpe, thanks for the memories. I certainly will be spending a whole lot less time here. At times it's been a rocky road, but all in all, it was a bunch of fun. Ciao!
Agree with you all. I think the forums will go on but it will not without notice that you all are not participating.everytime a new owner takes over the website suffers.
thanks scott and nowhereman for all the hours you have devoted finding quality content. I know the amount of dedication it takes
I hope that the site has great luck in promoting social justice.
nowhereman said:Scott, Alpe, thanks for the memories. I certainly will be spending a whole lot less time here. At times it's been a rocky road, but all in all, it was a bunch of fun. Ciao!Scott SoCal said:Alpe d'Huez said:Just a note: I posted a note in the mod forum asking for an explanation why the BoB thread was removed. I only know so far that recently new ownership took over the site. I do not know their rationale, or thinking. I do know a few things though:
This was without question the most popular thread on the entire forum. That equals traffic, which equals advertising, which equals money.
There was nothing offensive in the thread. In the past photos were included of women from the backside with no under garments, we deleted and banned those.
Nearly every photo was professionally shot. Many of the photos were of women wearing regular cycling clothing, many of them professional cyclists or amateur racers. Some were nostalgic looking. Some were of famous people.
The vast majority of the photos were no more offensive, or of women no more or less scantily clad, than what you would see in any woman's magazine today, aimed at female readers (Cosmo, Allure, etc). I would even make the argument that nearly every one of those photos are photoshopped, and thus present a dangerous view of what a women should look like, while photos of healthy women on bicycles is a positive thing for women to aspire to.
I spend less time than I did in the past as a mod. If this thread is removed permanently, like many of you, I'll spend even less time here without question.
Post of the year.
Removing the thread is a solution to a non-existent problem. PC run amok. Again.